Quote from: Abyssal MawI thought I had an easy target because your'e.. well.. kind of an easy target.  

You keep thinking that if you like. All you've really done is back away from stuff. You can't score any goals that way.

You've got a chip on your shoulder. You don't like the Forge and affiliated sites. What I said wasn't anything particularly new or startling, but the mention of some games connected with a website you don't like got you going. You came out swinging because you thought I was being 'smug'. You're offended. You went straight to insults without even trying to engage, which indicates some anger.

Mr A.'s wrong. You're not a prick, you're a dickhead. You've been asked not to get into this argument, but you went right for it. You just wanted to annoy me, because I annoyed you.

On some site or other, mods would have shut this down and banned us both by now. But here, I'm just going to keep going until you cave. Believe me, I can do it.

Right now, I'm going to bed. I'll see you tomorrow if you're up to it. Better get some better shit together.

Quote from: Abyssal MawBut those are all swine games which make you feel really special because theyve been endorsed.

Gosh.

You've got it entirely backwards.

We don't feel special because the games have been well-endorsed.  We feel special because by playing them, we put a nice, safe distance between ourselves and people that honestly believe shit like what you wrote just there.

Which is not to say we don't believe screwball shit of our own.  But it's ours, and therefore...

Look, my poop smells better than your poop.  Just accept it.

Quote from: droogYou keep thinking that if you like. All you've really done is back away from stuff. You can't score any goals that way.

You've got a chip on your shoulder. You don't like the Forge and affiliated sites. What I said wasn't anything particularly new or startling, but the mention of some games connected with a website you don't like got you going. You came out swinging because you thought I was being 'smug'. You're offended. You went straight to insults without even trying to engage, which indicates some anger.

Mr A.'s wrong. You're not a prick, you're a dickhead. You've been asked not to get into this argument, but you went right for it. You just wanted to annoy me, because I annoyed you.

On some site or other, mods would have shut this down and banned us both by now. But here, I'm just going to keep going until you cave. Believe me, I can do it.

Right now, I'm going to bed. I'll see you tomorrow if you're up to it. Better get some better shit together.

Wait, by cave do you mean, keep screwing with you?

Quote from: Levi KornelsenGosh.

You've got it entirely backwards.

We don't feel special because the games have been well-endorsed.  We feel special because by playing them, we put a nice, safe distance between ourselves and people that honestly believe shit like what you wrote just there.

Which is not to say we don't believe screwball shit of our own.  But it's ours, and therefore...

Look, my poop smells better than your poop.  Just accept it.

See the fun part of all this, is even *I* don't really believe it, other than in a "let me just screw with this guy for a hot second" kind of way. I *am* offended by the smug assertion that "People [who express a preference for a given game mechanic] only like one sort of game."

Thats BS.

And your'e right, it all eventually devolves down to "my fictional pursuits are so much more important and amazing than your fictional pursuits."

Quote from: Abyssal MawAnd your'e right, it all eventually devolves down to "my fictional pursuits are so much more important and amazing than your fictional pursuits."

There's nothing fictional about my poop.

Firstly, my poop has enormous market share.  That makes it very special; it's the standard against which all lesser forms of shite must be measured.

And secondly, I made it myself, and it's perfectly tailored to that needs of my own digestive tract.  It's very coherent poop.

:flush:

Okay, that's enough of that metaphor.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenThere's nothing fictional about my poop.

Firstly, my poop has enormous market share.  That makes it very special; it's the standard against which all lesser forms of shite must be measured.

And secondly, I made it myself, and it's perfectly tailored to that needs of my own digestive tract.  It's very coherent poop.

:flush:

Okay, that's enough of that metaphor.

Dude. MY poop has the market share.

Your poop is coherent and has a premise.

God bless Levi for turning this thread around with talk of poop.  "Poop" is my all-time favorite word.  Make of that what you will.

To get slightly back on topic, my so-called perfect system has a rigorous enough combat system such that each fight over a long campaign can be a beautiful snowflake of violence, but the system also has to be fast enough that I can fit at least two or three fights into a short session.

When Levi starts talking about the quality of his poop, that grin on the face of his avatar suddenly takes on a whole new meaning...

Quote from: Abyssal MawDude. MY poop has the market share.

Your poop is coherent and has a premise.

I think you just one yourself the thread, Maw.

Quote from: Abyssal MawDude. MY poop has the market share.

Your poop is coherent and has a premise.

I sig that if it mine wasn't already full.

I also have to say that there's no such thing as a single "perfect system" for me.  

I love the Hero System, James Bond 007, Polaris, Ars Magica, Dogs in the Vineyard, and Shooting the Moon.  

On the boardgame side, I love Carcassone Hunters & Gatherers, but I also like Memoir '44 and lots of others.  I also love Poker and Liar's Dice.  

I don't see anything in common here except that they're all well-designed games.

Quote from: Abyssal MawDude. MY poop has the market share.

Apologies.  I didn't intend to demean your poop.

Quote from: Clinton R. NixonMy perfect system has a decent amount of complexity. I don't particularly like games where there's only one to five tactical choices mechanically, and I've been designing games too long to get fooled by the idea that there's a list of skills, which means more choices.

Really? Well I've been running games for far too long to be fooled by the idea that "we don't have a skill list because you can make your own skills!" is going to give more choices rather than just more confusion and fuzzy-gaming.

To me, you either base everything off attribute rolls, or you write down a fucking skill list. You don't choose the lazy or artsy-pretentious way out of creating "do it yourself skill lists" so shitheads can try to push universal-use-skills ("um.. i'll put all 9 skill points into my "trained as a ninja superhero who can do anything and knows anything" skill") on the game or people will just have to thumb through a D20 book to try to figure out practical skills anyways.

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Quote from: droogOn some site or other, mods would have shut this down and banned us both by now. But here, I'm just going to keep going until you cave. Believe me, I can do it.

Yes, on this site we believe in your inalienable right to act like and look like idiots.

RPGPundit

Quote from: jrientsGod bless Levi for turning this thread around with talk of poop.  "Poop" is my all-time favorite word.  Make of that what you will.

My favorite word is "RPGPundit".

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