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The most over-rated figures in the "gaming industry"

Started by RPGPundit, September 11, 2006, 04:51:06 PM

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To me, those would be Bruce Baugh and Rebecca Borgstrom.

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Quote from: RPGPunditTo me, those would be Bruce Baugh and Rebecca Borgstrom.

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Borgstrom, not sure. She did write Exalted & Nobilis. I don't like either of them but they are both well liked and Exalted has a large following.

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Quote from: GabrielWell, I can state the loudest and fullest of themselves without much reason to be.

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Skarka has a lot opinions and not much to show for it.

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Before I was banned for the umpeenth time without any particular reason from the SJG forums, I once asked why people made all the gurps rules queries out to sean punch instead of steve jackson.

The general reply was that punch knew the gurps system, having written it mostly while jackson hadn't don't much for the new edition, being too busy being the 'EIC" for SJG.
 
G4e was mostly written by sean punch and dave pulver, but jackson's name came on first in the credits.

Is that being overrated?
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I've missed out on a  lot of the Skarka drama, but he doesn't come across as the sort of person I want to buy stuff from, just from his attitude and ego.

But for me personally, I just don't get the hype surrounding Borgstrom.  If you write an RPG, your intent (flowery, non-sequitur prose aside) should be to make the system clearer, not buried under the weight of your own writing.
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Another vote for Borgstrom here. I mean is it really considered a sign of talent to make rules more difficult by burying them in over elaborate prose?
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Does anyone have any links to the drama in question?  I've never even considered the people behind the rules I use (except for E. Gary Gygax, obv) and I find the concept of "rpg personalities" pretty novel.

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Quote from: Zachary The FirstI've missed out on a  lot of the Skarka drama, but he doesn't come across as the sort of person I want to buy stuff from, just from his attitude and ego.

But for me personally, I just don't get the hype surrounding Borgstrom.  If you write an RPG, your intent (flowery, non-sequitur prose aside) should be to make the system clearer, not buried under the weight of your own writing.

I know some people disagree (not on this forum but rpg.net) but I fully believe in "Speaking With Your Wallet" and GMS is one person that I refuse to buy anything from because of his attitude and ego.

And because it needs to be repeated and in Bold:

Quote from: McrowSkarka has a lot opinions and not much to show for it.

gleichman

GMS is a must list.
Mark Rein*Hagen  needs to be there for starting the whole White Wolf thing.


I'll put Ron Edwards up there too, although to be honest he really isn't significant enough.
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Quote from: gleichmanGMS is a must list.
Mark Rein*Hagen  needs to be there for starting the whole White Wolf thing.


I'll put Ron Edwards up there too, although to be honest he really isn't significant enough.

Well, he is overrated.
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GMS isn't that big an industry figure is he?  He's mainly known for being an arrogant prick on discussion forums.

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Quote from: JamesVAnother vote for Borgstrom here. I mean is it really considered a sign of talent to make rules more difficult by burying them in over elaborate prose?
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