Quote from: BlackhandYoung Earth is Ha Ha type stuff.

Says the fellow who thinks rocks and trees can think and talk.

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Quote from: Ian AbsentiaSays the fellow who thinks rocks and trees can think and talk.

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This is evocative of ignorance, not comedy.  

I never said they think and talk.  From the sound of this comment, you're probably a young earther (you might still be in the closet).

Why don't you go find a congregation of them and talk bad about me?  You can have a coming out party or whatever Christians have when they figure out they can't handle reality.

Quote from: BlackhandYou're probably a young earther.

I am, indeed.  Only I think the Earth is only 1 hour and 23 seconds old.  All of existence was created in toto at that moment, with evidence and memories fabricated to support the appearance that it's all billions of years old.  My kind, of course, suffers the heresy among those who believe that the world is, in fact, still yet to be created -- an event that will only occur in another 34 seconds.

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Quote from: Ian AbsentiaI am, indeed.  Only I think the Earth is only 1 hour and 23 seconds old.  All of existence was created in toto at that moment, with evidence and memories fabricated to support the appearance that it's all billions of years old.  My kind, of course, suffers the heresy among those who believe that the world is, in fact, still yet to be created -- an event that will only occur in another 34 seconds.

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That this is a reasonable facsimile of Young Earth church beliefs should be enough to shut down the entire evangelical machine.

I'm Native American, btw.  Not all of us were converted when the white man poisoned us and took our land.

Plz save the Geronimo and Tonto jokes.  The christians have called me all kinds of names - Wagonburner, Redskin, but my favorite so far is Dirt Worshipper - for some reason I don't take offense at that one.  Or Wagonburner.

Did I ever tell you of the fellow who was convinced he created the world anew each time he opened the door to his house?

His 'religion' was that if he didn't percieve it directly it didn't exist. Even if he had already perceived it directly in the past, once it was out of his sight it ceased to be until it returned.


Ian, what can I say? I'm an American, we're just wrong in the head that way.

Quote from: SpikeDid I ever tell you of the fellow who was convinced he created the world anew each time he opened the door to his house?

His 'religion' was that if he didn't percieve it directly it didn't exist. Even if he had already perceived it directly in the past, once it was out of his sight it ceased to be until it returned.


Ian, what can I say? I'm an American, we're just wrong in the head that way.

Sounds like this guy was truly at peace.  :haw:

Quote from: BlackhandI'm Native American, btw.

Duly noted.  For what it's worth, the comment about rocks and trees thinking and talking* was provided only as counter-point to your remarks about the Young Earth theory. It's funny to watch someone attack someone else's faith-based belief while proclaiming their own.

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(*And I'm familiar enough with animism to know and admit that I was talking out of my ass with you.)

Quote from: jibbajibbaAnd I don't think American's really understand just how not at all seriously Europeans take religion. Even in Northern Ireland were the Protestants and the Catholics have been at war for 350 years no one actually goes to church or beleives in God.
A great indicator is American sitcoms. The Simpsons, the Griffins actually go to church. It would never occur to an English or Frnech writer to actually include that in a show.

Dunno about whole Europe, but at least in my corner of Southern Germany church-going is in the rural areas still a wide-spread activity. (Not for me - I'm an atheist myself.)

However, if it is more a question of prestige or one of actual faith could well be up to debate.

And certainly here no one seriously claims that earth is few thousand years or demonstrates actively against abortion.
(Apart from fringe sects, and they are anyway frowned upon by the Catholic mainstream and therefore doomed to irrelevance. Say against the Pope and his believers whatever you want, but at least wherever they are in the majority, religious nutjobs have a hard time to matter.)


And to get back again on topic: While I certainly had my fair share of encounters with fanatics, I was never persecuted due to gaming. But then again I joined the hobby back in the late 90s, and even those few Euros who could be fanatically enough to be bothered by a stupid dice&minis game because of the magic missiles have never heard of RPGs.
Sometimes ignorance is a bliss.

Quote from: Blackhandfor some reason I don't take offense at that one.  Or Wagonburner.

Well, I would say that from a certain perspective, Wagonburner could be taken as a point of pride. Like calling yourself 'Skullsplitter' something.

Then again, I've never understood the psychology of insults, at least not since I outgrew the 'rubber/glue' taunt.

I mean... Redskin?  First of all, how is that insulting anyone?  Inaccurate, certainly.  

All I can gather is that the intent is hurtful, therefore you allow yourself to be hurt by it.

Its like calling Ian a 'caveman'. He could chose to get all upset and say 'I don't live in a cave, motherfucker' or he could be 'yup, I'm a caveman, you wanna make something of it, pinky?'

His response would be dictated by his personal view of the term, certainly, but even more by the intent with which it is used... I suspect.

Quote from: SpikeDid I ever tell you of the fellow who was convinced he created the world anew each time he opened the door to his house?

His 'religion' was that if he didn't percieve it directly it didn't exist. Even if he had already perceived it directly in the past, once it was out of his sight it ceased to be until it returned.

I believe the term is solipsism.

QuoteHis 'religion' was that if he didn't percieve it directly it didn't exist.

Sounds like certain people around here with regards to game styles, sandbox play, etc.

Yes, I am aware of the term. This was someone who, for lack of a better word, preached it... though he seemed unaware that his philosophy was a rather extreme extension of an existing '-ism'...

... and by being unaware of it, it did not actually exist I suppose.

Quote from: TrevelyanSome guys never recover from a rail-roady GM.

I learned the following from the website I linked earlier.

1.  Never play D&D with Satan.

2.  Don't mess with Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokeman, and Magic players.  They are young magicians in the making who can summon dark forces upon you.

3.  Everyone is an impressional idiot; their minds are warped by the merest whisper of a suggestion.

Quote from: SpikeWell, I would say that from a certain perspective, Wagonburner could be taken as a point of pride. Like calling yourself 'Skullsplitter' something.

Then again, I've never understood the psychology of insults, at least not since I outgrew the 'rubber/glue' taunt.

I mean... Redskin?  First of all, how is that insulting anyone?  Inaccurate, certainly.  

All I can gather is that the intent is hurtful, therefore you allow yourself to be hurt by it.

Its like calling Ian a 'caveman'. He could chose to get all upset and say 'I don't live in a cave, motherfucker' or he could be 'yup, I'm a caveman, you wanna make something of it, pinky?'

His response would be dictated by his personal view of the term, certainly, but even more by the intent with which it is used... I suspect.

Exactly.

I remember a fight in my high school between a white kid and a Native American kid.  The (obviously dumb) white kid called the other kid a "taco bender", obviously mixing up his racial epitaphs.  However, it still provoked a fight.

My wife now delights in the childhood taunt of "Chinaman girl", because:[list=a]

• She wasn't Chinese
• The inherent contradiction between being a "-man" and a "girl" simultaneously

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