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If you could delete one concept in rpg design, what would it be?

Started by Balbinus, February 19, 2008, 07:23:08 PM

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Balbinus

February 19, 2008, 07:23:08 PM
For me it would be advancement.  I like characters to change, but advancement I think makes us too focussed on jam tomorrow rather than jam today and I think it breeds huge rules complexity.

So, death to character advancement!

What about you?

blakkie

#1
February 19, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
Dice.






:haw: NOT! I love me some dice. Hrmmm, I'm going have to htink about this a lot. Because there are a lot of concepts I think are mostly fine, just often used in the wrong place or to an inappropriate extent.

Maybe random character generation? That always rubs me the wrong way. Although I haven't played Toon, and random tables are good for non-sequitur goofiness so maybe, just maybe, random PC generation would get a repreive.

D&D's rule 0 maybe? Hrmmm.
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Pierce Inverarity

#3
February 19, 2008, 07:41:01 PM
PC script immunity, i.e. Dragonlance.
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Ian Absentia

#4
February 19, 2008, 07:41:47 PM
Tactical movement/combat.  I do love minis and hex-n-chit tactical games, but they aren't roleplaying games.  Likewise, RPGs aren't tactical games.  Sure, make separate games that are compatible (classic Traveller and Snapshot or Striker, for instance), but don't try mixing them together (D&D 3.x or Mongoose Traveller, for instance).  Make up your mind about what kind of game you want to play!

!i!

jeff37923

#5
February 19, 2008, 07:42:03 PM
The idea that more complicated/complete rules equals better rules. Simplicity in rule design on the front end can solve a lot of problems during actual play.

And a special one for science fiction games, leave some wiggle room for there to be some fiction in the science fiction. I do not necessarily want my science fiction RPG to be so scientifically accurate that it makes for a boring game play environment. If I wanted a science textbook, I'd go buy it - not a game which shouldn't be held to the same standards.
"Meh."

blakkie

#6
February 19, 2008, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: BalbinusHey, my group loves random chargen, hands off!
How about we just get parallel universes so I don't have to ever risk being exposed to your crappy gaming preferences! :D
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blakkie

#7
February 19, 2008, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: jeff37923The idea that more complicated/complete rules equals better rules. Simplicity in rule design on the front end can solve a lot of problems during actual play.
This I can really get behind. Hoist "more is always more" upon the pyre and burn it!
"Because honestly? I have no idea what you do. None." - Pierce Inverarity

John Morrow

#8
February 19, 2008, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: BalbinusWhat about you?

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James Maliszewski

#9
February 19, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
Lavishly supported official settings.
 

Kyle Aaron

#10
February 19, 2008, 08:03:36 PM
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walkerp

#11
February 19, 2008, 08:18:22 PM
Classes.
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James J Skach

#12
February 19, 2008, 08:25:33 PM
I always knew you had no class, walker...  :haw:

Action Points (or whatever meta-mechanic)...
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Balbinus

#13
February 19, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: blakkieHow about we just get parallel universes so I don't have to ever risk being exposed to your crappy gaming preferences! :D

Eh, to be honest I'd rather overzealously pursue you and your badwrongfun ways until you accept my position out of sheer exhaustion.

It's the internet way.

Balbinus

#14
February 19, 2008, 08:43:14 PM
Quote from: blakkieThis I can really get behind. Hoist "more is always more" upon the pyre and burn it!

Me too, though James makes a good case also.

Jim-Bob's suggestion sounds undeniable, but I would hope it's not that common an issue anyway.
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