A single person´s power fantasy in form of a  haphazardly stitched together homebrew, delivered with passion and imagination?

OR

A power fantasy purposefully stitched together power fantasy based upon market research and (second) guessing the audience´s longings, delivered by Jon Doe, writer?

Well, for my own tastes even cosmic level superhero games should not be power fantasies.  The greater the power, the greater the potential for tragedy.  This is why Shakespere liked to write about kings.

Power fantasies are always bad, a) because; b) inapplicable to matter in hand.

Nice biasing on your question. So it is "do you prefer what the amateur hobbyist does in their garage, who puts their heart and soul into something, even if it is drek" or "do you you prefer what a cold aloof corporation does, using focus groups, marketing research, and delivering it to you is a calculated manner in order to maximize the chance of you buying it"?

I will take the third choice thanks. If something is crap then it is crap. The origins of the crap does not make the crap any nicer. It is still crap. Some hobbyist's homebrew garbage is not somehow better than a corporations garbage because of the manner and motive behind its creation. I would not use either.

A hobbyist is capable of making good things and a corporation is capable of making good things. They are both capable of making junk as well. If what either made is junk I won't use it and I certainly am not going to give the hobbyist bonus points because they had a more "pure" motive while the "evil" corporation was just after my money.

Quote from: jedimastertI will take the third choice thanks. If something is crap then it is crap. The origins of the crap does not make the crap any nicer. It is still crap. Some hobbyist's homebrew garbage is not somehow better than a corporations garbage because of the manner and motive behind its creation. I would not use either.

The Force is strong in this one.

Quote from: SettembriniA single person´s power fantasy in form of a haphazardly stitched together homebrew, delivered with passion and imagination?

OR

A power fantasy purposefully stitched together power fantasy based upon market research and (second) guessing the audience´s longings, delivered by Jon Doe, writer?

As is The Farce here. Gotta love those "when did you stop beating your wife" questions.

Sett,

 You set up a no-win choice.

There is no choice there.


- Ed C.

Mmm.

I like Rifts.

Quote from: SettembriniI like Rifts.

Me, too.

So, which of the two options best describes Rifts? Also, could you answer the original post for yourself?

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I'd like to ask -- is this another way to approach the question you're asking?

"Which is better: a low-budget production that's a single creator's labor of love; or a high-budget production that's assembled by committee, in order to maximize profits, and executed by hired labor?"

Just wondering if that's the same question that you're asking, or if I've missed your meaning.

Thanks!

It´s about aesthetics.

When Kevin pulls out:
"AWESOME PLASMA-Dinosaurs attack DRAGONHATCHLINGs at multiversal Dream Forge!!!111!", I´m enthused.

If Richard Baker presents us the latest meetings findings and consensuses in a blog entry so bland, it makes Charly Chaplin movied stand out in gaudy colours, it just sucks.

Even if it says mostly the same shit as Kevin or Carella used to present.


I cannot really put my finger on why EGG/Kevin or Hargrave are cool, whereas...the current fluffanistas leave a really bad "Episode I" taste in my mouth.

Yeah--I like MetaScape for the same reason I like Plan Nine From Outer Space.

Both were conceived and executed by questionably talented maverick lunatics, and neither works are perticularly good, by any objective standard. But that sheer joy of self-expression bleeds through and make the movie fun for me to watch, and the game fun to play.

I don't think that's a universal experience, though. I'm not sure, man, maybe it's a recessive gene or something.

Quote from: SettembriniI cannot really put my finger on why EGG/Kevin or Hargrave are cool, whereas...the current fluffanistas leave a really bad "Episode I" taste in my mouth.

I think it's the "bottled lightning" effect.  Lightning is wild and cool and unpredictable when it occurs naturally.  When you start trying to bottle it, though, it becomes tame, homogenous, and totally predictable.  It's still lightning, but the elements about it that caught your fancy have been constrained in order to make it a replicable event.

!i!

Quote from: SettembriniIt´s about aesthetics.

When Kevin pulls out:
"AWESOME PLASMA-Dinosaurs attack DRAGONHATCHLINGs at multiversal Dream Forge!!!111!", I´m enthused.

If Richard Baker presents us the latest meetings findings and consensuses in a blog entry so bland, it makes Charly Chaplin movied stand out in gaudy colours, it just sucks.

Even if it says mostly the same shit as Kevin or Carella used to present.


I cannot really put my finger on why EGG/Kevin or Hargrave are cool, whereas...the current fluffanistas leave a really bad "Episode I" taste in my mouth.

Do you think that this occurs because you like the design philosophies espoused by one group over another?  I mean if you like what EGG/Kevin/etc. makes versus what Baker does, this may bias your view on their press releases.

Someone who does not like Rifts may not get fired up when Kevin puts out info on his new book about Cybernetic Carnivorous Kangaroo riding Juicers invading Atlantis. Even if that info is presented in an enthusiastic way.

If the material is going to suck anyway, I'd much rather it be presented to me blandly. That way I'm unlikely to waste my time with it.

Quote from: SettembriniI cannot really put my finger on why EGG/Kevin or Hargrave are cool, whereas...the current fluffanistas leave a really bad "Episode I" taste in my mouth.

I think it's the difference between making something YOU (the creator) think is cool, and something you're making while thinking "the kids will think it's cool".

Assuming they are equally good, the former, but that's a big assumption.