Fear of Girls Part II

architect.zero · November 19, 2007, 12:44:20 PM

Quote from: Drew... In this instance it's a pair of gamers, and that is what seems to be getting people riled up. ...

I know that's the point. That's why I laughed my ass off. And actually it's only getting a small portion of gamers riled up: those that are looking into a mirror when watching that video. (boo hoo)

Kiero · November 19, 2007, 12:45:36 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneYawn. This is all you've got? The rhetorical equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"?

*tsk tsk tsk* Kids these days.

Given I couldn't give a shit what you think, why would you merit anything more than a token effort?

J Arcane · November 19, 2007, 12:50:47 PM

Quote from: KieroGiven I couldn't give a shit what you think, why would you merit anything more than a token effort?

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Drew · November 19, 2007, 12:55:29 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneThe probblem is that after a good 30 years of this shit, it's become pretty goddamn cliche.

The motivation is rarely a positive one either. It's never the knowing wink, "Look at how silly we are", it's more the sneering, "look at those guys over there". Gamers are creepy, geeky, losers etc., except for US of course, who are all shiny, happy, perfectly normal people, yessiree Bob.

It's laughing at, not with. And I could do without that, thanks.

I really don't see this as an attack on gamers. It's a formulaic comedy setup using RPG's as the social glue that cements two dysfunctional characters together. the comedy doesn't so much arise from gaming as it does from how the pair function as outsiders. It could just as easily be computer games, model railways or folk music, and very little would change. I neither feel offended or marginalised by that, mainly because there's a tiny part of me that is Doug and Raymond. If anything I have a great deal of affection for them.

Drew · November 19, 2007, 12:56:17 PM

Quote from: architect.zeroI know that's the point. That's why I laughed my ass off. And actually it's only getting a small portion of gamers riled up: those that are looking into a mirror when watching that video. (boo hoo)

Fair enough. I must have misread your post.

J Arcane · November 19, 2007, 01:07:08 PM

Quote from: DrewI really don't see this as an attack on gamers. It's a formulaic comedy setup using RPG's as the social glue that cements two dysfunctional characters together. the comedy doesn't so much arise from gaming as it does from how the pair function as outsiders. It could just as easily be computer games, model railways or folk music, and very little would change. I neither feel offended or marginalised by that, mainly because there's a tiny part of me that is Doug and Raymond. If anything I have a great deal of affection for them.

I wouldn't use the term "offended", and certainly not a ridiculous one like "marginalized", I just think it's fucking lame, and slightly irritating. It's rehashing cliches from 80s movies that were equally retarded then, combined with a lot of pathetic ego stroking of the same sort that leads people to develop EXTREME!/ADULT CONTENT! versions of old TV shows.

30 years of gaming, and this is the best they can come up with? Cartoon nerds? There's plenty of decent gamer humor out there, even self-deprecating ones, but this kind of crap is just cliche and unintersting on every level.

Drew · November 19, 2007, 01:13:50 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneI wouldn't use the term "offended", and certainly not a ridiculous one like "marginalized", I just think it's fucking lame, and slightly irritating. It's rehashing cliches from 80s movies that were equally retarded then, combined with a lot of pathetic ego stroking of the same sort that leads people to develop EXTREME!/ADULT CONTENT! versions of old TV shows.

30 years of gaming, and this is the best they can come up with? Cartoon nerds? There's plenty of decent gamer humor out there, even self-deprecating ones, but this kind of crap is just cliche and unintersting on every level.

To you, perhaps. I find it extremely funny.

And what 80's movies are you referring to? Surely not that Tom Hanks abomination, which was a totally different kettle of fish.

And by the way, you do come across as being personally offended by all this. Maybe that's not how you feel, but that's definitely the message I've been getting. Please explain why you find it irritating, so I can get a clearer idea of what you're talking about.

Blackleaf · November 19, 2007, 02:30:14 PM

There was a scene at the beginning where "Doug" goes to the game store wearing his cloak, and there were "normal" gamers there staring at him with WTF? expressions. I didn't get the feeling the film makers are making fun of those gamers -- it was more they were showing just how abnormal Doug was.

The 3 women gamers weren't the stereotypical D&D nerd cliche either. For that matter the two main characters have more depth to them than the standard "Nerd".

Anyway...

Where's the Mountain Dew? :haw:

Aos · November 19, 2007, 03:01:31 PM

I keep it in my pants.

James J Skach · November 19, 2007, 03:35:58 PM

I had two thoughts on Aos' reply. The first, was the old standby...

A) I thought you were just happy to see me....

The second was more...intricate...

B) My, that's more of a Mole-Hill Dew, isn't it?

Your choice.

Aos · November 19, 2007, 04:08:37 PM

Mole-Hill would be a bit of an exaggeration, really.