What we need is a poll that doesn't run along the lines of "How often do you beat your wife..."

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiWhat we need is a poll that doesn't run along the lines of "How often do you beat your wife..."

Concur.

Quote from: SeanchaiWhat we need is a poll that doesn't run along the lines of "How often do you beat your wife..."

Well, shit dude, it's only a click of a button to make a poll...

I do have the slim hope that if enough people don't like the new version I can maybe get them to try GURPS 4/e.


- Ed C.

Quote from: KoltarI do have the slim hope that if enough people don't like the new version I can maybe get them to try GURPS 4/e.

Gurps has a 1.4715 version?

Quote from: James McMurrayGurps has a 1.4715 version?

Thats the way its abbreviated over on the Otrange and Fluffy.

 GURPS 4/e = GURPS 4th Edition.



- Edmund C.

There's no rational way to know this project is going to be great unless you are on the inside designing or at least playtesting it.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Most of the changes I've learned about are decent to great. But there's still areas I need to know about before making a decision.

Option 2 all the way, hesitant optimism. There are so many things I do like, that the few things I don't kinda throw me for a loop.

I'm ambivalent, but it's a pretty strong ambivalence.

On the one hand, there are a lot of things about 4e that make it sound like a pretty decent RPG, especially for players. I might even enjoy it.

On the other hand, it's probably the final nail in the coffin of the thing called 'D&D' that I loved and grew up with and hoped one day would last forever.

Really, that thing had already started to die by the eighties, but the hardest fantasy in roleplaying for me to get over has been the fantasy that the adventure would last forever. Good or bad, 3e at least held out the hope of a rebirth, and not just for me. The best 4e can be is something new and good; there's no buzz like there was last time even among the new version's most ardent boosters.

New and good is an honorable thing to be, of course, but D&D was something far more than that.

My ambivalence really has nothing to do with the new edition.  It has more to do with my ambivalence to 3.5.  I can run the same type of adventures using the boxed sets, RC, or Labyrinth Lord.  The only reason I switched from 3.0, that I barely used, to 3.5, that I barely use, is to have the same references as the people I play D&D with.

I'm gonna echo Koltar, here, in a way -- I hope it's lots of fun for a girl or a boy.

I want more gamers, period.  They can develop a taste for old school on their own, if they wanna, but let's get 'em in the hobby first.

There isn't an entry for laughing my ass off.

I want new stuff in my toolbox.

The completes were starting to repeat themselves. (Complete Adventurer... Complete Scoundrel?... What?)
Races of the Dragon, Draconomicon, Dragon Magic... enough already! Savage Species and the half-dragon template are all we ever needed of draconic PCs.
We've got Tome of Magic, Tome of Battle, Magic of Incarnum, and Expanded Psionics... enough new rule sets.

Honestly, 3.5 could have been finished when they got through with the completes, the races books, the environments series (sandstorm etc), and the books focusing on specific monsters (libris mortis, draconomicon, the fiendish codices... others concerning fey and giants are missing). That plus Unearthed Arcana is all I ever really needed.

A new edition is all they could sell to me at this point and, if anything, I'm hoping to see something new and interesting.

At this point, neither excitement nor apprehension describe my feelings accurately. "Impatience" is a better fit.

No feelings at all. My interest stopped at 2nd edition and my experiences with 3rd and 3.5 have not encouraged me to buy them in anyway.

That said I have really been enjoying the D20 Campaign Settings that have been released by various companies and enjoy Adapting them to my System of choice.

Good luck with 4th

QM

Quote from: KoltarI think a lot of the arguments about it between now and next May might be entertaining.

June. D&D4 will be out June.

http://www.enworld.org/index.php?page=4e
http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=209661