Quote from: J ArcaneI'm still straight you know.

Should be irrelevant since you are, in fact, role-playing (and not actually flirting)...

Quote from: CallousShould be irrelevant since you are, in fact, role-playing (and not actually flirting)...

You do realize that there's a reality outside the game, don't you?

Quote from: J ArcaneYou do realize that there's a reality outside the game, don't you?

Exactly!  And the in-game role-played flirtation is unaffected by by your out-of-game sexual orientation and/or gender "reality".  Or at least should be...

Quote from: CallousExactly!  And the in-game role-played flirtation is unaffected by by your out-of-game sexual orientation and/or gender "reality".  Or at least should be...

you've got it backwards.  The fact that it's a game doesn't magically make the fact that it's a real person at the other end of the table go away.  

And as I've said, the gender/orientation thing is a red herring, please stop harping on it.  I find it rude and uncomfortable regardless of the sex of the person at the other side of the table.

J. Arcane,
 Relax and get therapy if you need it.
All of my players are straight (well mostly, 1 woman is thinking about being Bi) and we have enough brains and maturity to lknow we're playing a role-playing GAME.


- Ed C.

Quote from: John MorrowThat's exactly what I'm talking about.



Nope.  That violence in a game can get creepy does not mean that a game should be purged of violence.  Can't you imagine any romance in a game being role-played that you wouldn't find creepy?

Everywhere else in my life, issues of romance and intimacy are a private matter, so why the hell should it be any different when it comes time to roll some dice with friends?

Is there a point to it other that "Oh lets role-play some sex"? If its to gather information from a barmaid or seduce an enemy witch that is fine, but two dudes (or even the GM and his girlfriend) role-playing their characters getting it on is CREEPY as hell and completely unnecessary.

Koltar I will give you this link only if you promise not to share the details of the gaming session with us.

http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/gurps_sex.html

RockViper,

 I saw the old version of that page years ago .... thank you for the new & updated link.
 I don't have to "share" the details of  my player characters more interesting intimate encounters. We don't role-play that stuff in front of the rest of the group. But it does exist in the game . Some players go much more into detail than other - like I said with those notecards we use for private player-to-GM  conversations and such.  The thing is we don't deny the existence of love, romance, longterm commitment and such and those things might influence adventurers in a group that is a crew of starship.


 For a TV version of this topic - just look at the show "Firefly".
They had a whole episode where the group's job was to defend a bordello. If that was an RPG scenario, then Jayne Cobb might have been the one being played by the more "juvenile" player.  Whereas the rest of the characters played out their actions believably.
Wash didn't need their services because he was married, Shepherd Book wasn't going to enjoy their services because of his vows and faith.
 Kaylee? She still lusting after/has a cruch on Simon the doctor. Simon? Too nervous top pursue anyone....and he likes Kaylee - plus he had to deliver a baby during the firefight. (C'mon make those medical skill rolls!!)

- Ed C.

Quote from: J ArcaneEverywhere else in my life, issues of romance and intimacy are a private matter, so why the hell should it be any different when it comes time to roll some dice with friends?

Is this true?  In my non-gaming life, it is quite common for there to be flirting and displays of affection at parties, events, dancing, and so forth.  Couples are usually comfortable making it known that they are a couple, and will often do things like share romantic stories about how they met or how one proposed to another.  

If we differ in this, that may go a long way towards explaining the different attitudes towards gaming.

Quote from: jhkimDoes the sweaty guy thing make a difference, or is it just meant to be a humorous but irrelevant jab?  For example, my SotC play group is mostly women - currently six women and two men.  Would you consider romantic talk or flirting between women players any differently than guy/gal or guy/guy?

No.  The people I've played with and me are not exactly performers.  It can be awkward to perform or watch someone perform.  Performing intimacy in character is as strange to me as someone jumping up and performing rage or constantly speaking with an accent or lisp.  At best, we do pretty sad imitations of our characters and try to narrate how we imagined it.

Quote from: RPGPunditI think that as clash pointed out, in certain games it would be juvenile NOT to have romance. In others, romance would be utterly irrelevant.

I agree on this. Anyway, all my players are grown ups. Romance and sex happens whenever we feel it would make sense. We don't avoid it, and we don't force it, though I agree that it makes more sense ins ome games than in other.

The way it usually comes up in my games is as part of the plot. The "Is there a Brothel in town" days are long gone. I guess some players may still go there but not in my games. This has a lot more to do with the culture and style of your game than any "I am the GM, do it my way" kind of thing.

So yeah, like others have said, if it is part of the story but not just because you are in the mood.

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltThe way it usually comes up in my games is as part of the plot. The "Is there a Brothel in town" days are long gone.

Not to pick on you, in particular, since several people have made similar comments, but why do people see a thread titled, "Friendly Love & Romance in RPGs, flirtations and such, Lightheartedness", and instantly jump to prostitutes, one-night stands, and kinky sex fantasies?  What about, uh, "love" and "romance"?

Quote from: John MorrowNot to pick on you, in particular, since several people have made similar comments, but why do people see a thread titled, "Friendly Love & Romance in RPGs, flirtations and such, Lightheartedness", and instantly jump to prostitutes, one-night stands, and kinky sex fantasies?  What about, uh, "love" and "romance"?

I've been wondering the same. I have not been using those words as euphemisms for sex.

-clash

Seems everyone forgets to read the first two words of the thread title.


 I was watching Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow really late last night (early morning) and at the end I realized a key scene turned on love of a friend of a colleague.

Joseph Sullivan/Sky Captain is hoping to get help from Franky Cook  to go after Totenkopf. No success.
 Then he says: "Franky he's got Dex".  She then changes her orders and decides to help him.

The look on her face and the way that he pleaded with sold the idea that Dex was a good friend that they both LOVED - as a friend of course . This being the late 1930s and all.

 If you deny this kind of stuff or ignore its existence it just makes campaigns a little bit less interesting.

- Ed C.