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Forge Games- Having it both ways

Started by gleichman, August 31, 2007, 10:52:41 AM

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Haffrung

Quote from: walkerpThe next step is obviously Satanism.

Chick was right.

Actually, if a subset of gamers did publish and play games specifically to indulge their satanic fantasies, then Jack Chick would be at least partially correct.

I don't see anyone saying sado-porn is going to take over the RPG hobby. But there is clearly a small sub-set of RPGers who are designing, publishing, and playing RPGs as an outlet for the sado-porn fantasies. It's understandable that RPGers who aren't sick fuckers are uncomfortable with this development.
 

The Yann Waters

Quote from: HaffrungActually, if a subset of gamers did publish and play games specifically to indulge their satanic fantasies, then Jack Chick would be at least partially correct.
Er... At least one gamer did. It's called Empire of Satanis.
Previously known by the name of "GrimGent".

walkerp

Quote from: HaffrungI don't see anyone saying sado-porn is going to take over the RPG hobby.

That's kind of the sense I got from Gleichman's last post.  Take over is probably an exaggeration but his prognosis sounds very much like the same kind of fear-mongering that society puts up with everytime somebody pushes the envelope.  First you have women voting, then it will be moral disolution then chaos, etc.  Wash, rinse, repeat.
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walkerp

I played a game of Little Fears at a con last year and it was a lot of fun.  We played kids in a school in a low-income neighbourhood trapped in our school during a weekend detention center and fighting monsters that took on the forms of the fears in our world.  The monsters were pretty scary (a guy with a dead cat festooned with syringes that he attacked us with) and there was a light social message (children who live in poverty have it tough), but mostly it was a fun adventure in a novel setting.
"The difference between being fascinated with RPGs and being fascinated with the RPG industry is akin to the difference between being fascinated with sex and being fascinated with masturbation. Not that there\'s anything wrong with jerking off, but don\'t fool yourself into thinking you\'re getting laid." —Aos

The Yann Waters

Quote from: walkerpI played a game of Little Fears at a con last year and it was a lot of fun.
There haven't been any recent news about the Nightmare Edition, have there? I've been looking forward to hearing more about that.
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Erik Boielle

Yknow, I seriously think that you could be deep in to the third printing of Virtual Kid Fucker and Fifth-Child would still be defending it as High Art.

Hey, if those forge guys are serious about reaching untapped markets...I mean they already have Panty Explosion...
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The Yann Waters

Quote from: Erik BoielleHey, if those forge guys are serious about reaching untapped markets...I mean they already have Panty Explosion...
Apart from the title (which might perhaps have been chosen with a little more care but no doubt proved to be an effective marketing ploy), what exactly do you have against that game, compared to a similar non-Forge game like, say, Sailor Moon RPG?
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Erik Boielle

Quote from: GrimGentApart from the title (which might perhaps have been chosen with a little more care but no doubt proved to be an effective marketing ploy), what exactly do you have against that game, compared to a similar non-Forge game like, say, Sailor Moon RPG?

Principally, its a wonderful stick with which to beat any 'story gamer' who gets to full of themselves.

Its just altogether too entertaining that a game called Panty Explosion is one of the big draws to the Story Gaming Elite. Yeah dudes, its the carefully crafted theory driven story engine that sells that one...
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walkerp

Quote from: Erik BoiellePrincipally, its a wonderful stick with which to beat any 'story gamer' who gets to full of themselves.

Its just altogether too entertaining that a game called Panty Explosion is one of the big draws to the Story Gaming Elite. Yeah dudes, its the carefully crafted theory driven story engine that sells that one...

Or "I have no idea what the game is about."
"The difference between being fascinated with RPGs and being fascinated with the RPG industry is akin to the difference between being fascinated with sex and being fascinated with masturbation. Not that there\'s anything wrong with jerking off, but don\'t fool yourself into thinking you\'re getting laid." —Aos

brettmb2

Quote from: Erik BoielleIts just altogether too entertaining that a game called Panty Explosion is one of the big draws to the Story Gaming Elite. Yeah dudes, its the carefully crafted theory driven story engine that sells that one...
Now that is priceless :)

Actually, I don't think this is viewed as a story game, but rather just something hip and part of the clique.
Brett Bernstein
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Erik Boielle

Quote from: walkerpOr "I have no idea what the game is about."

Well, to be honest that it is called Panty Explosion and has a picture of a japanese schoolgirl on the cover, and is often sold to the forges target audience (manga fans who arn't in to roleplaying games) is enough.



Dude as wrote it also gets mail telling him that his game would be better if it was a vitual murder simulator.

This plays to my own thoughts that concept/setup is the most important thing in attracting people to a game (hence vampire = HUGE sorceror = bitty), and also, given that some of the people at the forge booth this year were uncomfortable with having a booth babe for a couple of hours, if they did succeed in reaching a non-gamer audience, they wouldn't like what they found.
Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet.

walkerp

I was under the impression that Panty Explosion was a game about playing high school kids.  I will admit that the cover image and the name definitely push it towards the tentacle horror side of things rather than just innocent schoolkids.

I note as well, though, that tentacle horror is an accepted sub-genre in anime.  Why isn't it appropriate for an rpg?
"The difference between being fascinated with RPGs and being fascinated with the RPG industry is akin to the difference between being fascinated with sex and being fascinated with masturbation. Not that there\'s anything wrong with jerking off, but don\'t fool yourself into thinking you\'re getting laid." —Aos

The Yann Waters

Quote from: walkerpI was under the impression that Panty Explosion was a game about playing high school kids.
Psychic high school kids, to be more precise, who fight against demons.
Previously known by the name of "GrimGent".

Erik Boielle

Quote from: walkerpI note as well, though, that tentacle horror is an accepted sub-genre in anime.  Why isn't it appropriate for an rpg?

Aside from the seedyness of sitting around talking about tentacle rape with a bunch of fat balding dudes, I have no real philosophic objection.

I'm just not gonna be lectured on high art by its officianados.

:-)
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droog

Hmmm--OT slur isn't working out too well, Erik. Not that I've got much time for PE myself. Ridiculous genre if you ask me.
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