Quote from: SettembriniSo you come here and want to change this place.
Shouldn´t you just go, and play?

Stop talking, go, play!

If you'll read what I wrote elsewhere Sett, I prefer not to see it as an imperative, rather a recognition of something that gives us a great deal of pleasure. Hence, I'm not a fan of Go, play!

If I want posts about a "wider variety" of games (aka Story Games) then I'd go to one of the other forums.

Lots of forums have particular topics, genres, theories, or even publishers that they deal with.  The Forge, Story Games, and RPG.net are places you can talk about Forge/Indy games and Forge/Indy theory.  Alternate theories or views on "Story Games" aren't generally welcomed there.

With the exception of therpgsite I can't think of any forums where you can discuss alternatives to Forge/Indy theory without it being threadjacked and jargonified.

If such a board existed, I'd probably be there.  But there isn't, so I'm here.

Mr. Ford, do you have anything else to contribute to this thread, instead of making a show of yourself and bashing this site and it´s users?
And if you don´t want to be associated with Go, Play! then you should change your avatar.

Quote from: StuartIf I want posts about a "wider variety" of games (aka Story Games) then I'd go to one of the other forums.

Lots of forums have particular topics, genres, theories, or even publishers that they deal with.  The Forge, Story Games, and RPG.net are places you can talk about Forge/Indy games and Forge/Indy theory.  Alternate theories or views on "Story Games" aren't generally welcomed there.

With the exception of therpgsite I can't think of any forums where you can discuss alternatives to Forge/Indy theory without it being threadjacked and jargonified.

If such a board existed, I'd probably be there.  But there isn't, so I'm here.

How about the fact I enjoy an unmoderated board? I'd rather not register for 4 or 5 forums to read a variety of discussions? It took me 18 months to register on rpg.net and I'd rather not spend too much time flicking between them. This forum was for 'traditional pen and paper rpgs' but of late it feels like that 'traditional' is getting more and more narrow. Alternatives to forge/indy theory may get thread-jacked elsewhere in your opinion, but does that mean this forum has to do the same to every instance of discussion of games that are not approved?

Quote from: Joshua FordA shame these don't come any bigger :rolleyes:

You think I should register at the Forge or Storygames then?

I wouldn't even have heard of the majority of 'Forge' games but for the bleating on here. You guys do a fantastic job of advertising for them though.

EDIT: What made me don the 'uniform'? That bile and wank-filled thread on Go Play.

I am so sick of this one.  I mean really, do you people think anyone actualyl buys this line of crap?  

"Oh I have nothing to do with the Forge, I just show up to defend them and their games whenever possible, and in fact only seem to have registered for expressly that purpose!"

It didn't fly the last several dozen times some dickfuck tried it, why the fuck would you think we'd believe it this time?

Quote from: Joshua FordAlternatives to forge/indy theory may get thread-jacked elsewhere in your opinion, but does that mean this forum has to do the same to every instance of discussion of games that are not approved?

I'd have no problem with that.  I don't mind forums have narrower focus.

Personally, I'd like it if the moderators would lock / delete (or at least move) any threads started with GNS theory jargon, as well as look at other ways of preventing GNS theory threadjacking.

Edit:

Because it feels a lot like evangelizing, rather than actual theory discussion.

Quote from: Joshua FordBecause I'd rather see a wider variety of posters discussing an equally varied sort of topics rather than mods thread-crapping and personal attacks when you don't go with the perceived opinion? If I didn't give a shit then I'd have sacked this place off and gone back to rpg.net exclusively. Which I'd rather not have to do.

Translation:  "I want to turn this place into an 'emotionally safe environment', where you can babble all kinds of horseshit and if anyone calls you on it, you get them banned."

Ain't ever gonna happen, and God bless that.  You may as well just go crying back to RPGnet now, because trust me, there's no more stubborn human being on the planet than RPGpundit.

Quote from: J ArcaneI am so sick of this one.  I mean really, do you people think anyone actualyl buys this line of crap?  

"Oh I have nothing to do with the Forge, I just show up to defend them and their games whenever possible, and in fact only seem to have registered for expressly that purpose!"

It didn't fly the last several dozen times some dickfuck tried it, why the fuck would you think we'd believe it this time?

Go on, have a look at my posts. See how many Forge games I've dived in to defend. The Go Play thread? Exasperation after reading a lot of the same arguments on rpg.net.

Quote from: StuartI'd have no problem with that.  I don't mind forums have narrower focus.

Personally, I'd like it if the moderators would lock / delete (or at least move) any threads started with GNS theory jargon, as well as look at other ways of preventing GNS theory threadjacking.

Edit:

Because it feels a lot like evangelizing, rather than actual theory discussion.

Fair enough - I don't agree that railing against the Forge actually 'damages' them, but understand your thinking on it.

Quote from: J ArcaneTranslation:  "I want to turn this place into an 'emotionally safe environment', where you can babble all kinds of horseshit and if anyone calls you on it, you get them banned."

Ain't ever gonna happen, and God bless that.  You may as well just go crying back to RPGnet now, because trust me, there's no more stubborn human being on the planet than RPGpundit.

Who gives a shit about 'emotionally safe'? If I wanted moderation and bannings I'd have stayed on rpg.net rather than coming over to see what people were talking about. I posted on-topic about the game in thread though and Sett has nothing to say but insults. Just symptomatic that's all.

Quote from: StuartIf I want posts about a "wider variety" of games (aka Story Games) then I'd go to one of the other forums.

Lots of forums have particular topics, genres, theories, or even publishers that they deal with.  The Forge, Story Games, and RPG.net are places you can talk about Forge/Indy games and Forge/Indy theory.  Alternate theories or views on "Story Games" aren't generally welcomed there.

With the exception of therpgsite I can't think of any forums where you can discuss alternatives to Forge/Indy theory without it being threadjacked and jargonified.

If such a board existed, I'd probably be there.  But there isn't, so I'm here.

Word up dawg.  

I am sick to fucking death of the Forge and it's evangelists and sympathizers, and it's nice to have a place that, for all it's other faults, can be damn certain not to let that shit gain any traction here, despite what has been a ridiculous blitz of their kind on these shores over the last month, ever since that damn Story-Games thread.  

Fuck the lot of you, go back to sucking Ron Edward's cock, or fucking small boys in the throat, or whatever sick shit you're all up to this week, and leave this place the hell alone.  It ain't going to work here.

Quote from: droogYou're right J, I'm probably just a sick, sociopathic fuckhole.

Eh, I'm definitely those things, I still think this sounds:

a) profoundly adolescent;

b) about as accurate as the Disney version.

A point I made upthread also, the Disney/Poison'd split is a classic fallacy of the excluded middle, it's also a total ignoring of how it actually worked historically (and several rpgs have done historical pirates pretty accurately, Gurps Swashbucklers, High Seas for Flashing Blades, the ICE Pirates supplement, Run Out the Guns, all of these portrayed fairly historically accurate pirates).

Poison'd as described is as accurate as Pirates of the Caribbean, but with a veneer of sixth form philosophy overlaid on it.  There's more to challenging art than putting some freaky shit in, genuinely challenging art plays with our perceptions and preconceptions, this does not.  If it is an artistic statement, I don't think it is a successful one.  The question for me is not is it art, but is it good art.  I don't think we get a happy answer to that question.

And profoundly disturbing works can be great art, but it takes more than crude shock tactics to make profoundly disturbing works.

Incidentally, Joshua Ford has every right to a go play avatar, this board is about sticking up for what you think.  If he's into that it's for him to choose to flag it, just as to be fair it's for others to choose (randomly to my mind) to oppose it.

Balbinus,
he is exactly NOT sticking up for what he´s wearing the flag for. He denies being into Go,Play!
And we call that bullshit.

Quote from: SettembriniBalbinus,
he is exactly NOT sticking up for what he´s wearing the flag for. He denies being into Go,Play!
And we call that bullshit.

Not a fan of Go, Play! Sett. Not a fan of Go, Play! (As in stentorian voice, extended index).

Fan of Go Play! As in Gooooo Play! (Wheeee, we actually have something in common despite the arguments and we have fun in the process).

Please read what I wrote. That comma does make a difference.

So what?
You are weaseling around. You are not standing up for the symbol.
The symbol says, Go, Play!
With a comma.