Quote from: SHARK on April 06, 2025, 03:20:36 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on April 05, 2025, 03:28:57 PMJeffro is a grifter and a liar, and uses Gygax to reinforce his own idiotic ideas about AD&D which were not how anyone actually played.
Most of the BroSR don't actually play D&D. They just enjoy being in an online community where they can brag about how tough they are and being a community where they feel safe to share how anti-semitic they are.

The awful thing is that Shadowdark's author recently said she thought they had interesting ideas. I'm guessing no one has told her about all the antisemitism and anti-gay diatribes by Jeffro. I tried, but she might have me muted, because like a lot of people she doesn't know who her real enemies are.

Greetings!

I'm guessing that Kelsey was simply being diplomatic, and polite. Kelsey is strictly professional, and obviously works hard to cultivate gamers and fans--and while not being offensive to anyone or getting sucked into wallowing in the mud with trolls. Kelsey seems to place a very high priority on her game books being accessible and enjoyable for anyone and everyone. Kelsey is not interested in arguing controversial subjects that have nothing to do with gaming in general, and more importantly, her business, her products, and her reputation as a professional writer and game designer.

That's my impression.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Yes. This. Kelsey is never going to get involved in discussing anti-Semitism in the  BrOSR. Just like she won't discuss Woke stuff, including Woke anti-Semitism. Her no politics rule is very strict. And she doesn't respond to "You should not associate with these people" posts.

Looked thru #BrOSR #Jeffrogaxian for a few minutes on X. Harmless.

Quote from: yosemitemike on April 05, 2025, 01:32:22 AMThe only reason I have even heard of the Brosr is Pundit's videos mentioning them.  I don't know who this Jeffro guy is beyond the name and I don't care what he has to say about anything.  He doesn't seem to really be any sort of authority on what Gygax did at his table and I don't particularly care about Gygax or what he did anyway.  From what I can tell, this is the OSR's tendency toward one-true-wayism cranked up to absurdity.   

This right here, I had never heard of this three-piece-chicken-mcnobody until Pundit whined and winged about him. Pundit makes a bad habit of signal boosting people he doesn't like.

But yeah Gyax shouldn't be treated as some saint or prophet of gaming, he was a good designer, that's all, and even then I still prefer some of Dave Arneson or Tom Moldvay ideas to Gyax's.


The only thing I'd disagree with you is I think OneTrueWayism has died out, it was more common in the early OSR when the sole point was attempting to emulate a style of play which was not in print at the time, since then the amount of OSR games that aren't just B/X or Advanced clones has skyrocketed. the last vestiges of OneTrueWayism are loud people on Twitter.

Quote from: Kuroth on April 06, 2025, 04:55:32 AMLooked thru #BrOSR #Jeffrogaxian for a few minutes on X. Harmless.

These idiots are never harmless.

Quote from: Omega on April 06, 2025, 10:59:40 PM

Quote from: Kuroth on April 06, 2025, 04:55:32 AMLooked thru #BrOSR #Jeffrogaxian for a few minutes on X. Harmless.

These idiots are never harmless.

silly

Quote from: Insane Nerd Ramblings on April 05, 2025, 09:17:10 PMSo my latest interaction with the Bro's is "It's not attacking you if I say you never played AD&D cause you didn't run rule XYZ like we do or that I called you an asshole'. So I guess being a rude dickwad is just 'how some people are on the Internet and you shouldn't take it personally'.

that's the biggest reason they are trash. The passive-aggressive "it's okay to admit you're not playing AD&D" shit