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WotC's Sigil likely in fail state

Started by honeydipperdavid, March 19, 2025, 01:15:09 PM

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honeydipperdavid

March 19, 2025, 01:15:09 PM
https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/layoffs-project-sigil-virtual-tabletop

It's likely that WotC's Sigil is done. They should have bought Talespire if they wanted a full 3D table top.  If they wanted a VTT with an existing user base, virtual store and integration with steam, then they should have bought Fantasy Grounds.  Foundry VTT or Owlbear Rodeo could have worked as well.

Wotc failing on VTT could not have happened to a more deserving company filled with leftarded assholes.  Next, I hope to hear more layoffs and WotC stopping all development.  Let 6E die from the retarded spring of race marxism its based on.

Man at Arms

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March 19, 2025, 01:27:15 PM
Oh, my!!!  Say it ain't so, Joe.

RNGm

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March 19, 2025, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 19, 2025, 01:15:09 PMhttps://www.wargamer.com/dnd/layoffs-project-sigil-virtual-tabletop

It's likely that WotC's Sigil is done. They should have bought Talespire if they wanted a full 3D table top.  If they wanted a VTT with an existing user base, virtual store and integration with steam, then they should have bought Fantasy Grounds.  Foundry VTT or Owlbear Rodeo could have worked as well.

Wotc failing on VTT could not have happened to a more deserving company filled with leftarded assholes.  Next, I hope to hear more layoffs and WotC stopping all development.  Let 6E die from the retarded spring of race marxism its based on.

Or just hired some chinese mobile devs to build it on spec in less than 12 months.  No one is expecting a full AAA game (not that those are any sort of benchmark for quality nowadays though).  We basically only needed the equivalent of Neverwinter Nights from 2002 that runs on mobile devices like smart phones and tablets and that integrates with their Beyond database for stats and characters.

Ratman_tf

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March 19, 2025, 01:45:41 PM
Even if this were a viable avenue, WOTC have shown they are incapable of implementing a VTT twice now.

They should just make D&D themed gatcha games if they want to cash in on monetizing some kind of online D&D scheme.
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Crusader X

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March 19, 2025, 01:57:52 PM
So "Sigil" was the name of their VTT?  I knew a VTT was supposedly coming, and I saw hype and demos from it awhile back, but I didn't know it was called Sigil.

Horace

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March 19, 2025, 02:45:21 PM
WotC could fire all their DEI hires, issue a public apology, and make a $1 million donation to the Heritage Foundation, and I still wouldn't buy any of their products.

Chris24601

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March 19, 2025, 03:28:28 PM
Yeah, it's dead. They said 30 people were canned and clarified that's 90% of the staff so that's three, maybe four with generous rounding, staff left. There are online games in maintenance mode with more staff than that.

My bet is whoever is left is there to make sure everything is shut down properly and any rights/licensing matters resolved before turning out the lights and locking the door.

honeydipperdavid

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March 19, 2025, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on March 19, 2025, 01:57:52 PMSo "Sigil" was the name of their VTT?  I knew a VTT was supposedly coming, and I saw hype and demos from it awhile back, but I didn't know it was called Sigil.

Sigil is the 3D VTT, they also are making a 2D VTT.  IOW's, Hasbro is fucking clownshoes at building anything.

zircher

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March 19, 2025, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on March 19, 2025, 01:45:41 PMEven if this were a viable avenue, WOTC have shown they are incapable of implementing a VTT twice now.

They should just make D&D themed gatcha games if they want to cash in on monetizing some kind of online D&D scheme.
Funny, but if they made something with the look and play of Genshin Impact, I'd actually be interested in that.  Of course, pink haired heads would explode if they made a game with good looking characters.
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March 19, 2025, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 19, 2025, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on March 19, 2025, 01:57:52 PMSo "Sigil" was the name of their VTT?  I knew a VTT was supposedly coming, and I saw hype and demos from it awhile back, but I didn't know it was called Sigil.

Sigil is the 3D VTT, they also are making a 2D VTT.  IOW's, Hasbro is fucking clownshoes at building anything.

I was equally confused, not realizing they had a separate 3D VTT. Having seen the preview of the 2D version (D&DBeyond MAPS), it is so far behind what's already out in the market I would never have taken the wraps off it yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see it get cancelled at some point. Not that I want them to buy and ruin one of the other VTTs in the market, they would be much smarter to do so than build in house with a team that clearly doesn't know how to build something like this.
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Omega

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March 20, 2025, 07:54:47 AM
Quote from: Crusader X on March 19, 2025, 01:57:52 PMSo "Sigil" was the name of their VTT?  I knew a VTT was supposedly coming, and I saw hype and demos from it awhile back, but I didn't know it was called Sigil.

Yeah, theres a worc vid up where they call it Sigil, same one where one of the developers is proudly stating that D&D needs to be more "toyetic". Hope that fuckwit was one of the ones fired.

Ruprecht

#11
March 20, 2025, 08:51:38 AM
Hasbro probably decided it was cheaper to buy a competitor's project at this point and make it theirs.
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HappyDaze

#12
March 20, 2025, 11:08:08 AM
Never been a fan of VTTs, so I won't miss this at all. I wonder if the money that would have gone into it will be redirected into making more/better tabletop (real tabletop) D&D products, or if Hasbro will put it into something else.

RNGm

#13
March 20, 2025, 11:13:00 AM
All they needed to do was make the equivalent of a 3d mobile game that meshed with their Beyond databases for characters and monsters.   No one was asking for the next MMO or AAA game.

Thorn Drumheller

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March 20, 2025, 11:27:12 AM
Oh no......anyway pic

WotC was a johnny come lately with a vtt. In that market, like in a lot of others, you shouldn't enter the game late.

I know they tie to dndbeyond to force it.....but then you just have lost any goodwill that might have been left after the ogl nonsense.
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