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What is the purpose of character classes?

Started by ForgottenF, December 06, 2024, 11:49:24 PM

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Chris24601

#76
March 08, 2025, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 08, 2025, 01:42:54 PMConcession accepted.
I'd like to know where you went to school.

The fact you think you're clever or conveying signs of intelligence with these replies is a condemnation of every educational institution you've ever attended and I would like to publicly mock them by repeating quotes of you followed by "- a [insert institution here] graduate."

You make Domina look like a genius... so if you're a Domina sock, you might wanna look at what you've been exposed to in the last couple of months because it has clearly caused brain damage and you deserve compensation for that.

yosemitemike

#77
March 08, 2025, 07:40:12 PM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 08, 2025, 01:42:54 PMConcession accepted.

I will graciously accept your concession.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

JoannaGeist

#78
March 13, 2025, 11:40:41 AM
I'm very sorry about whatever anger issues you're working through. Feel free to provide any reasoning at all for your position any time.

yosemitemike

#79
March 14, 2025, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 13, 2025, 11:40:41 AMFeel free to provide any reasoning at all for your position any time.

You first.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Two Crows

#80
March 14, 2025, 01:09:06 PM
Quick character generation.
If I stop replying, it either means I've lost interest in the topic or think further replies are pointless.  I don't need the last word, it's all yours.

JoannaGeist

#81
March 17, 2025, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on March 14, 2025, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 13, 2025, 11:40:41 AMFeel free to provide any reasoning at all for your position any time.

You first.

I did, here.

Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMAll the players have to do is choose options that match their concept. Structure is provided by the options, just as it would be by classes.

So are you going to explain why you believe structure can only be provided by classes, or do you just not have an argument?

Eirikrautha

#82
March 17, 2025, 06:45:30 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 17, 2025, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on March 14, 2025, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 13, 2025, 11:40:41 AMFeel free to provide any reasoning at all for your position any time.

You first.

I did, here.

Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMAll the players have to do is choose options that match their concept. Structure is provided by the options, just as it would be by classes.

So are you going to explain why you believe structure can only be provided by classes, or do you just not have an argument?

What you posted is neither reasoning, nor explanation.  It's just a statement.  If the other guy posts, "Structure is not provided by skill options to the same extent as character classes" he has provided just as much evidence and reasoning as you have.  So, try explaining your reasoning before you get all snarky.  It'll work wonders for your communication skills...
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

yosemitemike

#83
March 17, 2025, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 17, 2025, 01:52:17 AMI did, here.

You did not.

Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMAll the players have to do is choose options that match their concept. Structure is provided by the options, just as it would be by classes.

This is not an argument.  It's an assertion.


Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMSo are you going to explain why you believe structure can only be provided by classes, or do you just not have an argument?

This is called a strawman.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

blackstone

#84
March 17, 2025, 10:32:26 AM Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 10:34:24 AM by blackstone
Quote from: yosemitemike on March 17, 2025, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: JoannaGeist on March 17, 2025, 01:52:17 AMI did, here.

You did not.

Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMAll the players have to do is choose options that match their concept. Structure is provided by the options, just as it would be by classes.

This is not an argument.  It's an assertion.


Quote from: JoannaGeist on February 24, 2025, 03:32:01 AMSo are you going to explain why you believe structure can only be provided by classes, or do you just not have an argument?

This is called a strawman.

FYI: 99% certain that JoannaGeist is a sock puppet for Domina. Domina disappeared and Joanna Geist showed up. Same pattern of language. Even same type of avatar, right up until Domina took their avatar down.
1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

KindaMeh

#85
March 17, 2025, 10:42:31 AM
Pretty sure Domina was never banned, so I don't think that would make sense. That and JoannaGeist seems more opinionated about specific gameplay practices that I can't seem to remember from Domina.

yosemitemike

#86
March 17, 2025, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: blackstone on March 17, 2025, 10:32:26 AMFYI: 99% certain that JoannaGeist is a sock puppet for Domina. Domina disappeared and Joanna Geist showed up. Same pattern of language. Even same type of avatar, right up until Domina took their avatar down.

They use the same low effort trolling style.  Specifically, they both try to get people to write long rebuttals to one or two sentence assertions.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

JoannaGeist

#87
March 17, 2025, 11:20:03 AM Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 11:24:04 AM by JoannaGeist
Quote from: yosemitemike on March 17, 2025, 10:28:03 AMYou did not.

Then neither did you.

Quote from: yosemitemikeThis is not an argument.  It's an assertion.

Yes. And "classes provide structure" is an assertion.

A class is a list of options. A list of powers is a list of options. If classes provide structure, then so does a list of powers. If a list of powers doesn't provide structure, then neither do classes.

Quote from: yosemitemikeThis is called a strawman.

So you don't believe that only class systems can provide structure for players? What are the other system types that provide structure, and why? Be specific.

Steven Mitchell

#88
March 17, 2025, 01:10:36 PM
It doesn't matter if it's the same troll or a different one.  Stop responding to it, and it will get bored and go away.  It's just trying to derail useful conversations with all the back and forth.  No matter what you say to it, you give it what it wants.

Brad

#89
March 17, 2025, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: Steven Mitchell on March 17, 2025, 01:10:36 PMIt doesn't matter if it's the same troll or a different one.  Stop responding to it, and it will get bored and go away.  It's just trying to derail useful conversations with all the back and forth.  No matter what you say to it, you give it what it wants.

Quote from: Brad on February 24, 2025, 04:24:08 PMFucking concern troll...I knew it.

I said that last month. Even though some of us can be abrasive with each other over the dumbest shit possible (of course me!), I don't have a problem with anyone on this board except for this kind of troll. Even the dumbest people still contribute useful stuff, but this kind of thing just wastes space. It's obnoxious.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.
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