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WotC lost a lore youtuber this time

Started by honeydipperdavid, February 27, 2025, 10:14:17 AM

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honeydipperdavid

Esper had some concerns, after the MM 6E came out he's done.


A lot of people are done now with anything 6E puts out.

HappyDaze


BoxCrayonTales

Which lore? D&D has undergone numerous retcons over the decades. What are the tourists upset about this time?

Banjo Destructo


honeydipperdavid

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 27, 2025, 10:55:39 AMWhich lore? D&D has undergone numerous retcons over the decades. What are the tourists upset about this time?

The lore doesn't differ that much in the long run dude.  Jettisoning all the lore to serve leftarded dilating idiots doesn't serve anyone but the left in turning D&D into a culturally insignificant after thought.

Sure other people will play D&D but without official VTT support and printed goods, it becomes a backwater like Car Wars or Battletech.

blackstone

1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: blackstone on February 27, 2025, 11:44:33 AMWho is he and why should I care?

He puts out Lore videos on D&D, second to AJ Picket.

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 27, 2025, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 27, 2025, 10:55:39 AMWhich lore? D&D has undergone numerous retcons over the decades. What are the tourists upset about this time?

The lore doesn't differ that much in the long run dude.  Jettisoning all the lore to serve leftarded dilating idiots doesn't serve anyone but the left in turning D&D into a culturally insignificant after thought.

Sure other people will play D&D but without official VTT support and printed goods, it becomes a backwater like Car Wars or Battletech.
That seems to be going around a lot in ttrpgs. I think it's a good thing honestly. These decades old publishers and IPs have insane first mover advantage. They need to die so that new ones can finally enter the market.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything that looks like it could be fun to play.

Jaeger

Quote from: HappyDaze on February 27, 2025, 10:31:22 AMSo he haz hurt feelz. Whatever.

Don't be so hasty. This is a good thing.

Because this:
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 27, 2025, 01:06:50 PM...
That seems to be going around a lot in ttrpgs. I think it's a good thing honestly. These decades old publishers and IPs have insane first mover advantage. They need to die so that new ones can finally enter the market.
...

The fact that WotC shills are removing themselves from the bandwagon is a good sign.

Granted WotC has a lot more own-goals to make in order to lose their massive advantage, but there is a growing undercurrent in the hobby that is not going in WotC's direction, and they ignore it in the long run at their peril...
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Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 27, 2025, 10:14:17 AMEsper had some concerns, after the MM 6E came out he's done.


A lot of people are done now with anything 6E puts out.

Is this the same guy who got in over his head back in December?

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/esper-the-bard-entered-the-culture-war-unarmored/msg1296634/#msg1296634
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weirdguy564

Good.

D&D is too close to a monopoly.  Having everyone branch out is how the marketplace creates new and fun stuff to try and buy.

I'm thrilled whenever somebody gives up on the 900lb gorilla.
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 28, 2025, 12:52:05 PMGood.

D&D is too close to a monopoly.  Having everyone branch out is how the marketplace creates new and fun stuff to try and buy.

I'm thrilled whenever somebody gives up on the 900lb gorilla.
I agree that D&D is a monopoly that has hugely held back the hobby for decades, but I feel like it's too late for this loss of power to matter. The zeitgeist has shifted to something that I find not even remotely interesting as games were 20-30 years ago. All the games with interesting ideas were cancelled long ago and what remains feels shallow, soulless and nostalgic for the most boring bits of the 70s and 80s.

blackstone

Why is anybody posting about this loser when EGG Jr passed away?
1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

honeydipperdavid

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Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on February 28, 2025, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 28, 2025, 12:52:05 PMGood.

D&D is too close to a monopoly.  Having everyone branch out is how the marketplace creates new and fun stuff to try and buy.

I'm thrilled whenever somebody gives up on the 900lb gorilla.
I agree that D&D is a monopoly that has hugely held back the hobby for decades, but I feel like it's too late for this loss of power to matter. The zeitgeist has shifted to something that I find not even remotely interesting as games were 20-30 years ago. All the games with interesting ideas were cancelled long ago and what remains feels shallow, soulless and nostalgic for the most boring bits of the 70s and 80s.

No.  WotC is trying to find the "new customer", namely the 8% politically active left that makes up the Seattle bubble the developers are mired in.  It's not selling and their latest iteration is a failure.  Hasbro did not mention D&D as a separate entity in Q4 2024 financial release. 

What is going on is Hasbro is about a decade behind the times and is chasing the M-She U and Disney Star Wars demographics.  People are far left, don't have human values and generally despised by humanity.  You know all the kids who would kill animals or try to sexually assault a girl, that is the lefts market.  Not people going their own way but moral fucking degenerates that should be jailed for societies safety.

Let me give you an example of how well its going, my hobby shop had a copy of the Radiant Citadel up a few weeks after release in 2022.  I stopped by said hobby shop to see if its still there, yup still there.  I asked the hobby shop owner to remove the chance of it being a reorder, nope he said he ordered it by mistake and hasn't been able to get rid of it yet.  Radiant Citadel is a race marxist trash piece of work, still up there untouched.  According to sales figures, its the lowest selling module to date for 5E.