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"Anti-Colonialist D&D" is Fake and Dumb

Started by RPGPundit, January 08, 2025, 10:36:28 AM

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RPGPundit

January 08, 2025, 10:36:28 AM
No, WotC did not put something about anti-colonialism in the D&D DMG. That's a misunderstanding caused by some people looking at a third party product by a bunch of nobodies and intentionally generating controversy by letting people think it's the DMG.
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Socratic-DM

#1
January 08, 2025, 01:07:45 PM
Kind of reminds me of what I've been saying for a long time, apathy has killed more ideas than any rage, spite or hate.
"When every star in the heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more on the face of the deep, three things will endure: faith, hope, and love. And the greatest of these is love."

- First Corinthians, chapter thirteen.

GeekyBugle

#2
January 08, 2025, 01:22:12 PM
The combat wheelchair and the "safety tools" all originated in third party products, both are now on the new official D&D totally not 6e book.

Ignoring those products doesn't help.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

blackstone

#3
January 08, 2025, 01:45:57 PM
I replied to anti-colonialism is another thread, but now we have one specific to it, I'd like to repost it here because I think it has merit:

QuoteAnti-colonialism: oh boy. There's a ton to unpack here. I'm a historian at heart. Went a few years to school to get a degree in it (fat lotta good it did for me), so I know when it comes to history, you NEVER take history out of the context from when it happened. Ever. It's the #1 blunder the vast majority of people do when looking back on historical events.

Anti-colonialism is empty-headed nonsense. Most smooth brained people who bring it up think that "Colonialism" is something that just happened in the past 300 years or so, or at worst, think Western civilization is the only one who practiced it.

Guess what? Colonialism, or the act of colonizing land for multiple reasons and purposes, has been practiced within the entirely of human history, and I didn't say "recorded" either. Migration is a type of colonizing. Except with migration, you're moving the entire people from one place to another, not a small portion. So, in effect when our cave-dwelling ancestors moved from place to place, some migrated and some colonized. If we didn't colonize and migrate as a species in the early stages on humankind, we would have died out.

There is no human population that hasn't migrated and/or colonized. EVER. You name a culture, people, nation, empire that existed and I'm sure they've migrated or colonized or both.

I'm also not ignoring the fact that colonialism and migration causes detrimental effects upon peoples who are already occupying that region. I well aware of that and I accept it. That's just how it works. Peoples move an occupy space from others, and the ones who are occupied have a few options. 1. fight 2. integrate 3. move. Unfortunately, all three of these options can lead to death: 1. death through war 2. cultural death 3. potential death by migrating to other spaces, and now your people are the colonizers.

Sorry for the rant. When I see someone say "anti-colonialism", I see a moron.
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BoxCrayonTales

#4
January 08, 2025, 01:47:19 PM
However, the fact that people believe it so readily is telling in itself.

Socratic-DM

#5
January 08, 2025, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 01:22:12 PMThe combat wheelchair and the "safety tools" all originated in third party products, both are now on the new official D&D totally not 6e book.

Ignoring those products doesn't help.

Safety Tools started in BDSM, swingers and leftists who had adjacent spaces in the RPG world were inevitably going to bring that over.

And I distinctly recall the combat wheel chair getting quite a bit of attention well before WOTC adopted the idea. I believe it was a minis manufacturer that had designed them for some no-name product, and then right leaning people on twitter reposted them for engagement pointss

I recommend you take Aye Rand's lessons to heart in this respect and quit dignifying and funding (hate watching) your enemies and pick your battles and hills. these people are literally kept afloat by engagement in many respects. those among us who are twittered I understand this is hard but it is required.




"When every star in the heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more on the face of the deep, three things will endure: faith, hope, and love. And the greatest of these is love."

- First Corinthians, chapter thirteen.

GeekyBugle

#6
January 08, 2025, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 01:22:12 PMThe combat wheelchair and the "safety tools" all originated in third party products, both are now on the new official D&D totally not 6e book.

Ignoring those products doesn't help.

Safety Tools started in BDSM, swingers and leftists who had adjacent spaces in the RPG world were inevitably going to bring that over.

And I distinctly recall the combat wheel chair getting quite a bit of attention well before WOTC adopted the idea. I believe it was a minis manufacturer that had designed them for some no-name product, and then right leaning people on twitter reposted them for engagement pointss

I recommend you take Aye Rand's lessons to heart in this respect and quit dignifying and funding (hate watching) your enemies and pick your battles and hills. these people are literally kept afloat by engagement in many respects. those among us who are twittered I understand this is hard but it is required.






Because ignoring them has worked so well the past 30 years...
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Socratic-DM

#7
January 08, 2025, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 01:22:12 PMThe combat wheelchair and the "safety tools" all originated in third party products, both are now on the new official D&D totally not 6e book.

Ignoring those products doesn't help.

Safety Tools started in BDSM, swingers and leftists who had adjacent spaces in the RPG world were inevitably going to bring that over.

And I distinctly recall the combat wheel chair getting quite a bit of attention well before WOTC adopted the idea. I believe it was a minis manufacturer that had designed them for some no-name product, and then right leaning people on twitter reposted them for engagement pointss

I recommend you take Aye Rand's lessons to heart in this respect and quit dignifying and funding (hate watching) your enemies and pick your battles and hills. these people are literally kept afloat by engagement in many respects. those among us who are twittered I understand this is hard but it is required.






Because ignoring them has worked so well the past 30 years...

conceding ground and not dignifying your enemy are not to be confused with one another.
"When every star in the heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more on the face of the deep, three things will endure: faith, hope, and love. And the greatest of these is love."

- First Corinthians, chapter thirteen.

GeekyBugle

#8
January 08, 2025, 02:18:13 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 01:22:12 PMThe combat wheelchair and the "safety tools" all originated in third party products, both are now on the new official D&D totally not 6e book.

Ignoring those products doesn't help.

Safety Tools started in BDSM, swingers and leftists who had adjacent spaces in the RPG world were inevitably going to bring that over.

And I distinctly recall the combat wheel chair getting quite a bit of attention well before WOTC adopted the idea. I believe it was a minis manufacturer that had designed them for some no-name product, and then right leaning people on twitter reposted them for engagement pointss

I recommend you take Aye Rand's lessons to heart in this respect and quit dignifying and funding (hate watching) your enemies and pick your battles and hills. these people are literally kept afloat by engagement in many respects. those among us who are twittered I understand this is hard but it is required.






Because ignoring them has worked so well the past 30 years...

conceding ground and not dignifying your enemy are not to be confused with one another.

Yeah, because not showing to the fight is totally different from ceding ground...

You keep playing the Ostritch, I'll keep doing my thing.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Socratic-DM

#9
January 08, 2025, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 02:18:13 PMYeah, because not showing to the fight is totally different from ceding ground...

You keep playing the Ostritch, I'll keep doing my thing.

You argue with people on twitter and change no minds, don't flatter yourself.

I simply threw pearls, whether you be swine or man is a choice unto you.
"When every star in the heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more on the face of the deep, three things will endure: faith, hope, and love. And the greatest of these is love."

- First Corinthians, chapter thirteen.

Socratic-DM

#10
January 08, 2025, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 02:18:13 PMYeah, because not showing to the fight is totally different from ceding ground...

You keep playing the Ostritch, I'll keep doing my thing.
You argue with people on twitter and change no minds, don't flatter yourself. culture is changed upstream, not downstream.

I simply threw pearls, whether you be swine or man is a choice unto you.

EDIT: Oops I meant to edit something but I guess I double replied.
"When every star in the heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more on the face of the deep, three things will endure: faith, hope, and love. And the greatest of these is love."

- First Corinthians, chapter thirteen.

tenbones

#11
January 08, 2025, 02:44:03 PM
If any of these players end up at my table - it will be a 50/50 shot their minds will be blown inward or outward.

GeekyBugle

#12
January 08, 2025, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: Socratic-DM on January 08, 2025, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 08, 2025, 02:18:13 PMYeah, because not showing to the fight is totally different from ceding ground...

You keep playing the Ostritch, I'll keep doing my thing.

You argue with people on twitter and change no minds, don't flatter yourself.

I simply threw pearls, whether you be swine or man is a choice unto you.

Thank you oh wise sage!

FFS
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

oggsmash

#13
January 08, 2025, 07:02:15 PM
  I am a little sick of the weak folks using the words "colonizer" and everything tied to it.  They should say what the truth is and what really irks them, "conqueror". 

Steven Mitchell

#14
January 08, 2025, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: tenbones on January 08, 2025, 02:44:03 PMIf any of these players end up at my table - it will be a 50/50 shot their minds will be blown inward or outward.

Yeah, but a bag of compressed air can only do so much, in or out.
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