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Forge of Foes, Sly Flourish goes Woke

Started by GeekyBugle, January 07, 2025, 03:09:38 PM

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GeekyBugle

The image is from said book, it's a supplement for 5E, I've been informed that Sly (the Lazy DM) didn't write that, but he still published it, I'll never again purchase ANYTHING by/from him.
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Man at Arms

Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 07, 2025, 03:09:38 PMThe image is from said book, it's a supplement for 5E, I've been informed that Sly (the Lazy DM) didn't write that, but he still published it, I'll never again purchase ANYTHING by/from him.


Yeah, I'm out too.

Ratman_tf

This is part of a larger section in the Forge of Foes on colonialism and how it's bad and everyone should agree with leftist politics when playing RPGs.


Sly has always been a leftie, fully onboard for safety features and "diversity" and all that jazz. So I'm not surprised.

He's got some good ideas, but a lot of wokie nonsense interspersed.
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Brad

So are goblins attacking for "men's rights" on behalf of the male villagers? Wouldn't a pseudo-medieval society be the PATRIARCHY by definition? How would you push for men's rights when they are literally in charge of everything by using monsters that hate humans?

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Eirikrautha

So, once upon a time, I bought the "Lazy GM's Guide" (or whatever it was called), and I read through it.  It started off with what I considered to be solid GM advice.  Not amazing, not lifechanging, but solid.  By the time I got to the last few chapters, I was seriously questioning why I had read the thing in the first place.  The last half diverges from what I would call "GMing 101" into "stupid stuff."  Like, I wouldn't expect it to work at any table, and if it did, it still wouldn't make my GMing easier or better.  A friend had his second book, and I flipped through just enough to confirm that it was more of the same.

So, honestly, I really don't get why he gets so much attention.  I have watched a few of the videos on his YouTube channel, and I've honestly never seen anything that would make him stand out from any other random RPG guy on the internet.  He's as close to being famous for being famous as there is in RPGs, IMHO.  So, yeah, nothing of value is lost...
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Slambo

Everyone is missing that the same book also has a section on having sex with monsters

RNGm

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Eh, goes?  He's dropped little nuggets here and there on occasion in the past to make his thoughts known when I've watched his content but it hasn't been consistent(ly annoying) enough for me to unsub yet.  Usually, it's when culture war takes the front page that he weighs in with a typically milk toast lefty take.  I think it's more that this time it just made the niche-news as it's more obvious and concentrated.   Either way, I don't have any interest in his book in the first place so I'm not his target audience.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:03:54 PMEveryone is missing that the same book also has a section on having sex with monsters

Say what? I'm reacting to excerpts and haven't seen this.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Slambo

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 07, 2025, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:03:54 PMEveryone is missing that the same book also has a section on having sex with monsters

Say what? I'm reacting to excerpts and haven't seen this.



Here you go.

Venka

I'm gonna be real here, I think nothing in this thread is gonna top Slambo dropping in the "be sure to get consent from the monsters you are dorking" full page spread.
This is like, historic.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 07, 2025, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:03:54 PMEveryone is missing that the same book also has a section on having sex with monsters

Say what? I'm reacting to excerpts and haven't seen this.



Here you go.



In another context, I wouldn't be so down on romance in rpgs. But in this context of the writer's other stances, it reeks of degenerate player characters fucking their way through the monster manual.

The "consent" hand wringing nonsense is especially awful.

God, this supplement is looking more and more like a suppository.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Slambo

Imma be honest l, ive long thought wanting to fuck monsters is part of why they want all monsters to be people.

ForgottenF

Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 07, 2025, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: Slambo on January 07, 2025, 05:03:54 PMEveryone is missing that the same book also has a section on having sex with monsters

Say what? I'm reacting to excerpts and haven't seen this.



Here you go.

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RNGm

Oh hellllll no...


 

Darmok and Jelad at Tenagra!  Shaka, the walls fell!   Temba, his arms are crossed you pervs!   :)     I take back the semi understanding things I said earlier in the thread, lol.

bat

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 07, 2025, 05:44:42 PMIn another context, I wouldn't be so down on romance in rpgs. But in this context of the writer's other stances, it reeks of degenerate player characters fucking their way through the monster manual.

The "consent" hand wringing nonsense is especially awful.

God, this supplement is looking more and more like a suppository.


I'm doubling down on my comment in another thread about 'good thing D&D was saved'. Not if it is going to amount to this. I never imagined in my worst nightmares that this sort of thing would crop up in rpgs.
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