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The Movie Thread Reloaded

Started by Apparition, January 03, 2018, 11:10:35 PM

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Lurkndog

Quote from: consolcwby on November 07, 2024, 08:39:00 PMI liked old Trek and the movies, thought TNG was meh and everything after was an abomination. In fact, I recently bought the 4K director's cut version of ST:TMP (V-Ger movie). It really upsets me they didn't just bring the original cast back for another 3-5 year run instead of just getting movies.

The movies were far more prestigious than another TV series would have been, especially with every movie studio in Hollywood wanting to dip into that Star Wars gravy train.

The concept of a prestige format syndicated TV show didn't exist yet, apart from the occasional high dollar miniseries. Star Trek The Next Generation wouldn't arrive until a decade later.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 23, 2024, 09:55:49 PMI'll take the WOK battles any day over the CGI nightmare of nuTrek. But it's a lot of mindless action, and that appeals to kids and the majority of moviegoers I guess.
Apply that sentiment to a lot (not all) of modern movies versus the "old" stuff. I guess I'm, a crotchey old grognard now.

I don't even mind the CGI nuTrek, but the Wrath fights really caught my imagination as a kid and cemented that one as THE Star Trek movie.

Submarine combat in space? Hell yes.

Monster maroons. The movie era designs.

I like Benedict Cumberbatch. But Montalban chewed that scenery to pieces. Perfection.

And the first actual scary scene I had seen from Star Trek.

Lurkndog

What do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a Star Trek cartoon set in the TNG era that ran on Paramount streaming. The tone is spoofy, kinda similar to The Orville, only more hyper and in 21-minute episodes.

I didn't watch any of it until after the show was cancelled, but they did a mini-marathon of it on YouTube and I got hooked.

I bought the first season Blu-Ray, and so far I'm entertained by it, though there is a strong possibility that I will get really sick of the character Mariner. She's definitely a Mary Sue, though I like the basic character hook of "Starfleet brat." If they grounded her a little more, I would probably like her a lot more.

There are five seasons of it, with the fifth airing now, but it is apparently going to be the last season.


Omega

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a Star Trek cartoon set in the TNG era that ran on Paramount streaming. The tone is spoofy, kinda similar to The Orville, only more hyper and in 21-minute episodes.

I hate the art, I hate the writing, I hate the unfunny jokes, I particularly despise the pissing all over on the series and the raging morons who screech "Its cannon!"

I hope to god its the last season. Id rather watch ST: Prodigy than this trash.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks?
I think it's about as close to portraying a Trek RPG campaign as a TV show is likely to come.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a Star Trek cartoon set in the TNG era that ran on Paramount streaming. The tone is spoofy, kinda similar to The Orville, only more hyper and in 21-minute episodes.

I didn't watch any of it until after the show was cancelled, but they did a mini-marathon of it on YouTube and I got hooked.

I bought the first season Blu-Ray, and so far I'm entertained by it, though there is a strong possibility that I will get really sick of the character Mariner. She's definitely a Mary Sue, though I like the basic character hook of "Starfleet brat." If they grounded her a little more, I would probably like her a lot more.

There are five seasons of it, with the fifth airing now, but it is apparently going to be the last season.



I've avoided it. There have been a few ideas that percolate out of the show that I found interesting. Like Cetacean Ops and that they have a Tamarian crewmember.

But I haven't watched a full episode. I haven't watched any Trek since 2009. I just catch the occasional Red Letter Media review to confirm that the franchise is no longer something I'd enjoy.
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yosemitemike

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks?

It's the only Star Trek show I actively disliked.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 15, 2024, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks?

It's the only Star Trek show I actively disliked.
What actions did you take that differentiated it from those you passively dislike?

Garry G

Quote from: HappyDaze on November 15, 2024, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: yosemitemike on November 15, 2024, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks?

It's the only Star Trek show I actively disliked.
What actions did you take that differentiated it from those you passively dislike?

I tend to throw soft fruit at my television. Nothing that would break it but there may be some clean up afterwards.

Omega

Someones done a revival of an obscure William Shatner movie called "Incubus"

Its all in Esperanto... wha???

Looks kinda interesting though, BW movie with lots of atmospheric night shots. Least the impression getting from the re-release trailer.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks?

Love it. I didn't think Star Trek comedy would work. It did.

Thought my son was a lost cause as far as Star Trek went, but he's into Lower Decks and am trying to get him introduced to other Trek as well.

Lurkndog

I watched ST:TNG intermittently when it was first on TV. I didn't like the first season, and I thought the show was basically a huge missed opportunity for the franchise. Their concepts just didn't fit together. The Holodeck was very OP, it basically gave them the powers of the godlike aliens from TOS, and it kind of ruined the Data "measure of a man" storylines when the holodeck could generate more convincing simulacra on the fly, and everyone turned them on and off like a Gameboy. I didn't like how they blurred the line between civilian and military, it seemed fake and ridiculous.

Once Babylon 5 showed up, I jumped ship and never looked back.

And yet, Lower Decks has achieved the unlikely feat of making me nostalgic for the TNG era.

Omega

Quote from: Lurkndog on December 02, 2024, 05:46:43 PMI watched ST:TNG intermittently when it was first on TV. I didn't like the first season, and I thought the show was basically a huge missed opportunity for the franchise. Their concepts just didn't fit together. The Holodeck was very OP, it basically gave them the powers of the godlike aliens from TOS, and it kind of ruined the Data "measure of a man" storylines when the holodeck could generate more convincing simulacra on the fly, and everyone turned them on and off like a Gameboy. I didn't like how they blurred the line between civilian and military, it seemed fake and ridiculous.

Once Babylon 5 showed up, I jumped ship and never looked back.

And yet, Lower Decks has achieved the unlikely feat of making me nostalgic for the TNG era.

I felt the same about TCG. I did not like Picard as in the first season he treated people like dirt. I REALLY did not like the new quasi-religion/Death cult the Prime Directive had become to they point they ALLOW CIVILIZATIONS TO DIE! And that carried over to Voyager which I detested too.

As for the holodeck. It had that power as far back as the animated series. The TNG writers wanted their cake and to eat it too. One episode they openly state the NPCs are just programs and clever scripts. Then in another "ITS ALIVE!!!" And then right back to programs and scripts.

jeff37923

Quote from: Lurkndog on November 14, 2024, 04:06:40 PMWhat do people think about  Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a Star Trek cartoon set in the TNG era that ran on Paramount streaming. The tone is spoofy, kinda similar to The Orville, only more hyper and in 21-minute episodes.

I didn't watch any of it until after the show was cancelled, but they did a mini-marathon of it on YouTube and I got hooked.

I bought the first season Blu-Ray, and so far I'm entertained by it, though there is a strong possibility that I will get really sick of the character Mariner. She's definitely a Mary Sue, though I like the basic character hook of "Starfleet brat." If they grounded her a little more, I would probably like her a lot more.

There are five seasons of it, with the fifth airing now, but it is apparently going to be the last season.



I absolutely love it! Some of the best Trek that I have ever seen. The fans who can't find the humor in the show and laugh at what they love are terminal Trekkies who think that Gene Roddenberry was the second coming of Christ and should be mocked.
"Meh."

Omega

Not a movie. But going through Kats old book collection and came across one that happens to have in it "The Man who Sold Rope to the Gnoles" by Margaret St Clair 1951.

Pretty unusual little take in the same vein as some Dunsany stories. The Gnoles in this are some manner of multi-eyed tentacled goblins.