That's hyperbole. Don't @ me with your favorite recent show or movie. I've got a few myself.

 When 90%+ of the modern entertainment is dog shit the title isn't much of a hyperbole.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 24, 2024, 02:14:02 AMWhen 90%+ of the modern entertainment is dog shit the title isn't much of a hyperbole.

I felt justified in making that title.

The video I linked is a fast 3.45 hrs. But one can skim it and just watch the end segment. It's pretty sad. She does a great job of pointing out how Trek lost it's way, and how that impacts a fan who liked the shows.

This is because modern entertainment is picking itself apart at an alarming rate. NOTHING will be left undefiled in a year or two at this rate.

Even picking on modern entertainment has lost it's appeal for me. These days I just ignore new things unless I hear from a lot of people I trust that something is good. Even  There's a short list of long-form Youtube critics I watch because I expect them to have something interesting to say, but I never bother to watch the thing they're criticizing. I don't even get any entertainment out of the short "look it's woke!" videos that so many YouTubers are doing anymore.

Weirdly, the last straw for me wasn't Star Wars or Rings of Power or anything like that. It was "Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle" in 2018. I'm a fan of Kipling in general, and the Jungle Books in particular. I watched the movie for that reason, and it was absolute shit. I still remember saying after I finished it "That's the last time I watch something because it's named after something I like".

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 26, 2024, 12:27:59 AMEven picking on modern entertainment has lost it's appeal for me. These days I just ignore new things unless I hear from a lot of people I trust that something is good. Even  There's a short list of long-form Youtube critics I watch because I expect them to have something interesting to say, but I never bother to watch the thing they're criticizing. I don't even get any entertainment out of the short "look it's woke!" videos that so many YouTubers are doing anymore.

I get that. I waver between indifference and mockery nowadays, depending on the show and my mood.

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 26, 2024, 12:27:59 AMWeirdly, the last straw for me wasn't Star Wars or Rings of Power or anything like that. It was "Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle" in 2018. I'm a fan of Kipling in general, and the Jungle Books in particular. I watched the movie for that reason, and it was absolute shit. I still remember saying after I finished it "That's the last time I watch something because it's named after something I like".

Rudyard Kipling, like Mark Twain, is much better read than watched.

Attached is Kipling Interviewing Twain in PDF.

I liked the old Chuck Jones Jungle Book cartoon. Think he also did The White Seal, and Rikki-Tikki-Tavi..

Theres also a fairly faithful Jungle Book cartoon from Russia. And a not bad Rikki-Tikki-Tavi.

Quote from: jeff37923 on August 26, 2024, 05:52:57 AM

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 26, 2024, 12:27:59 AMWeirdly, the last straw for me wasn't Star Wars or Rings of Power or anything like that. It was "Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle" in 2018. I'm a fan of Kipling in general, and the Jungle Books in particular. I watched the movie for that reason, and it was absolute shit. I still remember saying after I finished it "That's the last time I watch something because it's named after something I like".

Rudyard Kipling, like Mark Twain, is much better read than watched.

Attached is Kipling Interviewing Twain in PDF.

Thanks for that. Crazy to find out those two knew each other, but if you think about it for a bit, it makes complete sense. Reminds me of how there's an interview out there somewhere between Raymond Chandler and Ian Fleming.

Quote from: Omega on August 27, 2024, 07:27:13 PMI liked the old Chuck Jones Jungle Book cartoon. Think he also did The White Seal, and Rikki-Tikki-Tavi..

Theres also a fairly faithful Jungle Book cartoon from Russia. And a not bad Rikki-Tikki-Tavi.

I know some people who really like the Disney live action version of the Jungle Book. (I barely remember it, apart from Shere Khan looking pretty cool)  I think it might have been the success of that one that gave Disney the bright idea to spew out one live action remake after another.

Quote from: Trond on August 30, 2024, 11:21:15 AMI know some people who really like the Disney live action version of the Jungle Book. (I barely remember it, apart from Shere Khan looking pretty cool)  I think it might have been the success of that one that gave Disney the bright idea to spew out one live action remake after another.

   It might have been the Cinderella film by Kenneth Branagh, which I've also heard good things about from people whose judgment I trust. It came out in 2015, with The Jungle Book following the next year, so it might have been a one-two punch ... but they launched Beauty and the Beast the year after that, so I think they'd already decided to try the "reanimate the corpse" model.

Quote from: Trond on August 30, 2024, 11:21:15 AM

Quote from: Omega on August 27, 2024, 07:27:13 PMI liked the old Chuck Jones Jungle Book cartoon. Think he also did The White Seal, and Rikki-Tikki-Tavi..

Theres also a fairly faithful Jungle Book cartoon from Russia. And a not bad Rikki-Tikki-Tavi.

I know some people who really like the Disney live action version of the Jungle Book. (I barely remember it, apart from Shere Khan looking pretty cool)  I think it might have been the success of that one that gave Disney the bright idea to spew out one live action remake after another.

I remember not entirely hating it, but like most people I was in a more tolerant frame of mind regarding Disney back then. It does pull a lot of material from the short stories, and I think it deserves some credit for being the only one of those live action Disney remakes that isn't just a re-tread of the plot of the animated one.

I just got tired of all the live action remakes of the Jungle Book. Disney's done what now? 3 of them? 4 of them?

Oh, the 94 set was not Disney.
and 2nd Jungle Book was from Tri-Star?
The 1998 one by Disney.
two oddball ones also from 98 never heard of before from Wolfcreek which have heard of before.
The 2016 one.
Oh, the 2018 one was from WB...

So only 2 from Disney. Why does it feel like theres more than these. Not counting the first from 1942 movie with Sabu.

That Disney crew seems to only really be good at remaking things people better and more creative than they were came up in the first place.  Who knew middle men who just want money lack so much in the creation department?

It can be fun, but it can also get very tiresome.
Honestly I'm more willing to pick apart decent original properties than shitty adaptations.