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Cities Without Number

Started by Godsmonkey, February 01, 2023, 10:50:06 AM

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Brad

So...how long before the alphabet community figures out a way to get mad about "inclusion" in the game because it's not the right kind?

But yeah, "skins" are a part of cyberpunk; I think people are so fucking tired of dealing with this sort of shit being shoehorned into everything under the sun that when it's legitimate the first response is to get a little annoyed or overreact. I'll admit at first I was like, WTF is this crap, but reading it further, it's handled within genre.
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Barf.

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The only genres where this really fits is the cyberpunk and other sci-fi genres that has transhumanism as part of it. He does a good job putting it into CWN without making it a centralized focus of the game nor links it with any kind of political ideology.

It's just part of the genre. If characters can remake themselves by replacing body parts with machine parts then it makes sense that people would use other kinds of technology to modify themselves in different ways. Genetic manipulation, biological technology, slicing consciousness from one body to another like in Altered Carbon, etc. All appropriate to the genre.

Yes. Gender-bending and the like has been part of cyberpunk since it's very inception. Gibson's 1981 short story, Johnny Mnemonic, introduced the Magnetic Dog Sisters.

Also, it's fairly clear this whole section in CWN is written with a cynical view on the topic. Corporate-sponsered genders are considered "real" genders, while DIY mishmash hacks are considered freakish. The part where a gender indentity reverts back to normal after the paid-trial elapses further illustrates that this is really nothing more than predatory marketing aimed at an impressionable (or vulnerable) segment of the populace. It's literally turning gender expression into a costume that a person can wear/change whenever they desire, just like any other "fashion accessory."

There isn't anything here that says whether "affirming" a gender expression is a good thing or not. That is very much left to the GM/players to decide. It is merely saying, "this exists... and it's being exploited."

Yeah its actually pretty scary if we had the technology you know people would fall for it.

Brad

I finally got my printed copy; pretty decent game overall.

There are a couple sections that are clearly intended to be used for a Shadowrun-inspired campaign, and I began having some delusions of running such a game...I STILL have never figured out exactly how magic works in 2nd edition SW, but I think I could import most of the flavor into CWN and make it all work.

I'd recommend this for anyone who wants a serviceable cyberpunk game but wants to stick with something OSR and easy to understand.
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Quote from: Brad on May 22, 2024, 09:13:26 AMI finally got my printed copy; pretty decent game overall.

There are a couple sections that are clearly intended to be used for a Shadowrun-inspired campaign, and I began having some delusions of running such a game...I STILL have never figured out exactly how magic works in 2nd edition SW, but I think I could import most of the flavor into CWN and make it all work.

I'd recommend this for anyone who wants a serviceable cyberpunk game but wants to stick with something OSR and easy to understand.

I reviewed it a few months ago.  I like it well enough but I think there's a few better choices.  Neon Blood I feel used the d20 system for cyberpunk a bit better.

That said, the random tables are a great tool for filling things out, both world building and missions. 

CwN is a great book to have as a companion and a pretty good game in and of itself.
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Quote from: Mistwell on February 01, 2023, 09:45:24 PMI've been curious about all his games.

I do raise a bit of an eyebrow at the number of people saying, "I buy his stuff but I don't run any of the game" comments. Are these just mostly reading material for many people?

I have been running a campaign of Stars Without Number for over a year now. My players love the rules. As a GM, I find his world building sections of the game to be some of the best GM materials ever written.  I suspect many owners of his book buy the games for just he GM tools. And even if that all you ever use, the games are a bargain.



Yup, that was me. I looked at the free version of the books then bought them because the work he put into the GM tools was absolutely worth the price.
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