Quote from: TheShadowSpawn on June 30, 2021, 11:36:48 PM
Let's see, I proved that you were pulling information out of thin air that wasn't in this thread and that you were lying about them stealing. In addition I was at last fairly cordial after your petulant name calling.  You were wrong on both counts and just keep ignoring it, then have the temerity to call other people names. It was your immature behavior that set the tone.  I've seen your posts on this forum before and a progressive troll is exactly what you are. You know it, and its obvious from other users that they know it as well.

As this is straying out of the bounds of roleplaying I'm going to end my involvement in the discussion here so Pundit doesn't have to pull out the ban hammer.

I assure you, whatever you think I am, I am no progressive. And anyone who knows me knows that's the case. More often than not I am called a right-winger by progressives. It sounds like something you just call people who disagree with you. They must be a progressive if they don't see the wisdom of your arguments. Which is foolish, but then most of your posts in this thread were foolish and we already established you're a low information poster on this topic

Quote from: Omega on July 01, 2021, 02:34:09 PM
So what really was said and by who? Because I've got a local player telling me that Ernie really did post something online that was offensive about Trans people.

Worst I could find was apparently this? "There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity."

Which in all honesty is not all that bad or unreasonable. Especially now with the loony fringe of the LGBT community hellbent on antagonizing everyone and severely damaging any progress had been made in getting perople to actually relax and be more accepting.

I'm not sure. I haven't listened to the full interview. When I searched to see if someone else had a summary, though, I found that apparently Ernie had posted this:



This is a screenshot that I saw on the Bell of Lost Souls blog, here:

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/07/rpg-tsr-games-claims-to-be-attacked-by-wotc.html

That Twitter account was deleted, but I can see other references to the cached / saved message. The article also notes a recent post on Ernie Gygax's Facebook.

One more point of information that may or may not help: I just found out Ernie's partner, LaNasa, is the same LaNasa who ran for office in North Carolina and lost because there was video evidence that he used the "Two girls and a tub of grits" method of choosing who got a promotion.

Quote from: ScytheSong on July 01, 2021, 04:33:15 PM
One more point of information that may or may not help: I just found out Ernie's partner, LaNasa, is the same LaNasa who ran for office in North Carolina and lost because there was video evidence that he used the "Two girls and a tub of grits" method of choosing who got a promotion.

Yes. Ernie's business partner is the same Justin LaNassa who posted to Youtube a video of him narrating a wrestling match in a tub of grits between two of his female employees to see who would get a promotion. You can read more about it here.

Quote from: Mistwell on July 01, 2021, 04:51:10 PM

Quote from: ScytheSong on July 01, 2021, 04:33:15 PM
One more point of information that may or may not help: I just found out Ernie's partner, LaNasa, is the same LaNasa who ran for office in North Carolina and lost because there was video evidence that he used the "Two girls and a tub of grits" method of choosing who got a promotion.

Yes. Ernie's business partner is the same Justin LaNassa who posted to Youtube a video of him narrating a wrestling match in a tub of grits between two of his female employees to see who would get a promotion. You can read more about it here.

I've always preferred jello

Quote from: ScytheSong on July 01, 2021, 04:33:15 PM
One more point of information that may or may not help: I just found out Ernie's partner, LaNasa, is the same LaNasa who ran for office in North Carolina and lost because there was video evidence that he used the "Two girls and a tub of grits" method of choosing who got a promotion.

I love merit based systems.

Quote from: Omega on July 01, 2021, 02:34:09 PM
Worst I could find was apparently this? "There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity."

I thought it was the SJWs enforcing gender identity?

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on July 01, 2021, 06:31:20 PM

Quote from: Omega on July 01, 2021, 02:34:09 PM
Worst I could find was apparently this? "There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity."

I thought it was the SJWs enforcing gender identity?

Who knows what they believe?  The goalposts are ever changing.

Quote from: The Spaniard on July 01, 2021, 06:40:52 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on July 01, 2021, 06:31:20 PM

Quote from: Omega on July 01, 2021, 02:34:09 PM
Worst I could find was apparently this? "There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity."

I thought it was the SJWs enforcing gender identity?

Who knows what they believe?  The goalposts are ever changing.

Gender is more or less a defunct concept if removed from sex mapping. Feminist theory makes it difficult to define what is feminine in a substantial objective way. Your intuitions on the subject are rooted in social norms and bigotry. This philosophy causes friction between trans-accepting liberals and TERFs (trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist), a group of liberals who don't accept transgender people as valid. J K Rowling is an example of this. Liberal, but thinks trans people are basically evil.

An attempt at reconciliation, is if gender is unique to everyone, then it can include physical alterations of transgender peoples. So the number of genders = the number of people and is basically your name. Some try to advocate more than two genders, but less than 7+ billion. These people lack philosophical commitment.

Someone transitioning to "the opposite gender" is not one of two genders, they just grossly align with a gender that falls more in-line with one of two groups, if two groups are assumed. Mathematically, you can create clusters. So creating two clusters of genders and labeling one male and one female, creates a dichotomy to justify transition without accepting certain behaviors and self expression as essentially "female" (the platonic universal form of female, which feminist would argue does not exist, and most modern metaphysist would argue does not exist because they don't believe in universals).

There make of that what you will.   

Quote from: Mistwell on July 01, 2021, 04:51:10 PM
Yes. Ernie's business partner is the same Justin LaNassa who posted to Youtube a video of him narrating a wrestling match in a tub of grits between two of his female employees to see who would get a promotion. You can read more about it here.

Hopefully this experience translates into good grappling rules.

Quote from: DocJones on July 01, 2021, 09:07:38 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on July 01, 2021, 04:51:10 PM
Yes. Ernie's business partner is the same Justin LaNassa who posted to Youtube a video of him narrating a wrestling match in a tub of grits between two of his female employees to see who would get a promotion. You can read more about it here.

Hopefully this experience translates into good grappling rules.

I need a lot more context for the grits wrestling to have any kind of opinion about it.

I mean, beyond laughing.

Quote from: DocJones on July 01, 2021, 09:07:38 PM
Hopefully this experience translates into good grappling rules.

Or a good character class out of it.

Grytkata Practitioner.

Low level Grytkata Initiates have to carry their own. They usually travel in pairs, one carrying a pre-inflated pool, the other carrying large containers of grits.

Higher level Grytkata Masters can spontaneously summon the pools, or specialty grits that add modifiers.

The amount of completely out-of-their-mind hatred, posing-as-virtuous-while-issuing-death-threats behavior coming from the usual suspects was starting to make me sympathetic to Ernie, who is, despite his faults, probably just a not-very-savvy goofball.

But then when I see he just fumbles how to respond to this type of hate mob and the sympathy just evaporates.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 01, 2021, 09:52:41 PM

Quote from: DocJones on July 01, 2021, 09:07:38 PM

Quote from: Mistwell on July 01, 2021, 04:51:10 PM
Yes. Ernie's business partner is the same Justin LaNassa who posted to Youtube a video of him narrating a wrestling match in a tub of grits between two of his female employees to see who would get a promotion. You can read more about it here.

Hopefully this experience translates into good grappling rules.

I need a lot more context for the grits wrestling to have any kind of opinion about it.

I mean, beyond laughing.

The link has a pretty good summary. J. LaNasa was the owner of a tattoo parlor. As part of a contest to find out who would be "Head Shop Girl" (a putative promotion) he emceed and videotaped a grits wrestling contest between two of his female employees. Which he then posted to YouTube as a promotion for his business. Eight years later, the guy decides to run for office in North Carolina as a Republican. The Republican incumbent sets up a page showing LaNasa and his employees in all their raucous glory, claiming that he wants everyone to know the true morals of his opponent. This is the point at which I first heard of this guy. After he lost the primary (because nekkid wimmen and tattoos is not a  good "family values" stance in Wilmington, NC), he apparently hooked up with Ernie to snipe the TSR trademark. 

Anybody got a link to that video of the girls wrestling? 

...For gaming research of course.