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[Rant] More RPG.net frustrations

Started by Hackmaster, June 07, 2007, 10:22:02 PM

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Werekoala

Quote from: HackmastergeneralActually in the Koala's case, it was more akin to walking into a Nation of Islam meeting and wondering where the David Duke Appreciation seminar was.

Ooo, nice one! Been talking to Jakko have ye?
Lan Astaslem


"It's rpg.net The population there would call the Second Coming of Jesus Christ a hate crime." - thedungeondelver

Hackmastergeneral

No but thats about the level of "fucktard" you gave in most of your posts.

Going into a KKK meeting and propping Luther King Jr is dumb, but a brave thing to do.

You were just mostly as ass.  You brought everything on yourself, so I have no sympathy, and the bitching about the moderation on tBP rings hollow when you go out of your way to shit up the place.

There are some who have a legit beef with moderation.  Others, like you, are just bitching because they called you on your shit.  You may have some legit beefs - I didn't stalk your posts or anything, so I don't know.  But I do know you were overly aggressive, very trollish in a lot of cases, and just generally a disagreeable person to try to communicate with.
 

One Horse Town

A few more posts to the RPG section of the site wouldn't go amiss, i'm sure. ;)

Werekoala

Quote from: HackmastergeneralNo but thats about the level of "fucktard" you gave in most of your posts.

Going into a KKK meeting and propping Luther King Jr is dumb, but a brave thing to do.

You were just mostly as ass.  You brought everything on yourself, so I have no sympathy, and the bitching about the moderation on tBP rings hollow when you go out of your way to shit up the place.

There are some who have a legit beef with moderation.  Others, like you, are just bitching because they called you on your shit.  You may have some legit beefs - I didn't stalk your posts or anything, so I don't know.  But I do know you were overly aggressive, very trollish in a lot of cases, and just generally a disagreeable person to try to communicate with.

Guess I'll be taking your birthday present back, then. :P

Do I still exhibit those tendencies here, would you say?
Lan Astaslem


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David R

Quote from: WerekoalaDo I still exhibit those tendencies here, would you say?

I hope Hackmastergeneral replies. I've noticed that the extremely confrontational posting style of some over at tBP most times is not really on display here...which is to say even though you didn't ask me, I would have to say, no.

Regards,
David R

Koltar

There is still "confrontational posting" on here - but its much mellower brand of confrontational posting. (If such a thing is possible).

It does strike me funny seeing someone defendong rpg.net on a forum site where most of the posters are either angry at rpg.net, burned out on it - or would rather just stop hearing about it.


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Tyberious Funk

Heh!  And people try and defend Tangency... that place is a cancer.  The sooner it gets split into a separate site with it's own moderation rules, the better.  RPG.net could then go back to being a site focused on, y'know, RPGs :rolleyes:
 

James J Skach

I'm just curious so I want to check facts...

WK is a right wing nut job, if I'm not mistaken...

Didn't HMG say he was pretty much a socialist?

So, could HMG's view that WK was so horrible be a political bias?

Cause, ya know, things like that happen..on occasion...sometimes...
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Werekoala

Quote from: James J SkachI'm just curious so I want to check facts...

WK is a right wing nut job, if I'm not mistaken...

Didn't HMG say he was pretty much a socialist?

So, could HMG's view that WK was so horrible be a political bias?

Cause, ya know, things like that happen..on occasion...sometimes...


As I said, the only reason I was such a "bad" "confrontational" poster is that I stood up for the unpopular (i.e. just to the right of Marxist) viewpoints that were not held by the other, vocal, dogpiliers there, and when I get dogpiled, it tends to make me fight back. So yes, that's at least what the root of the problem is/was. I was therefore made an example of, as many others have been.

Now, if I had just kept my mouth shut, gone alongto get along... well, then that wouldn't be much better.
Lan Astaslem


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shewolf

Quote from: Tyberious FunkHeh!  And people try and defend Tangency... that place is a cancer.  The sooner it gets split into a separate site with it's own moderation rules, the better.  RPG.net could then go back to being a site focused on, y'know, RPGs :rolleyes:


C'mon...Tang isn't that bad. I like it there. And crazy broad that I am, I've never been banned. One warning. I don't have much to say about RPGs (which I've stated in the past) so I mainly hang in OT parts. Same as here, and on TMP. ALthough my hubby banned me from posting to the politics board on TMP, as he doesn't want my beliefs to possibly taint customer reactions. Which is a good idea for me! :D

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Quote from: shewolfC'mon...Tang isn't that bad.
Cancer is often defined as,

"A general term for about 100 diseases characterized by uncontrolled, abnormal growth of cells. The resulting mass, or tumor, can invade and destroy surrounding normal tissues. Cancer cells from the tumor can spread through the blood or lymph (the clear fluid that bathes body cells) to start new cancers in other parts of the body (metastases)."

Tangency Open is a subforum which is twice as large in threads and posts as any roleplaying subforum. It has uncontrolled growth, and that growth is "abnormal", just as for example a stomach tumour is abnormal growth since the tumour does not process food the way the rest of the stomach does - that is, the posts are not about roleplaying, which was the original purpose of rpg.net.

Tangency Open's posts and threads "invade and destroy" other subforums in a few ways.

Firstly, the attention given by people visiting the site to Tangency Open distracts from the roleplaying subforums.

Secondly, the issues in Tangency Open being discussed are political, sexual, personal and so on. Naturally people take these much more seriously and to heart than they do talking about roleplaying games. So it's from Tangency Open that we get rules against personal attacks, group attacks, etc etc. These begin as very sensible and useful things, but end up with people in the roleplaying subforum saying, "d20 players suck" and getting warnings and suspensions over it. Thus, rules and moderation which come from non-roleplaying issues stifle roleplaying conversations.

Thirdly, arguments carried from Tangency Open mean that posters put one another on ignore, and thus miss out on comments the person makes about roleplaying. This also stifles conversations about roleplaying.

Fourthly, and most importantly, several times now rpg.net has crashed because the number of threads and posts on it exceeded the software's ability to handle; cut out the non-roleplaying parts of the forum, and you immediately make space. But this is not acceptable to "the Tangency community" - and the mods who spring from it - and so more workarounds are developed, for example getting rid of the vbulletin search function. These complicated workarounds and patches lead to a worse performance in speed and utility for the site as a whole.

In all these ways, Tangency Open resembles a cancer on the roleplaying body of rpg.net. It should be excised.

But of course it won't be. A good number of the mods wouldn't be mods if they'd not been able to establish themselves in "the Tangency community." Nor would most of them know what to talk about if they could only post in the roleplaying subforums.
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Hackmaster

I'm shaking my head at Ron Edwards latest posts where he publicly accuses someone of making a personal attack, asking the mods to step in.

The personal attack? Someone compared the dice mechanics in his game to Risk.

Yep - that's a personal attack in RE's bizarre little world.
 

jrients

Holy crap.  You got a link to that, GoOrange?
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Hackmaster

Thread about problems with Sorcerer

I linked the whole thread so you can read it in context and judge for yourself.

RE is just so far gone I no longer have words for it.

Edit: before he edits out the juicy bits - here's RE's reply to one poster
Quote2. Jack Spenser's post is deliberately trying to confuse readers and misrepresent the game. He very well knows that the Sorcerer dice system is not Risk's, and that trying to apply Risk to it will be laborious and awful. This is dishonest and in my view constitutes a personal attack. If RPG.net's moderators were to do their job in this case, I'd appreciate it.
 

David R

Dishonesty is a PA ...in an rpg thread ? :D

Regards,
David R