Adam Koebel (Dungeonworld) Shows Just how Toxic Male Feminists Are

Morblot · June 09, 2020, 10:29:02 AM

A time to plant, a time to reap...

Samsquantch · June 09, 2020, 02:25:15 PM

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1133186And the typical and predictable shit show at Reddit to go with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/gz615t/moving_on_adam_koebel/

That thread is full of excuses for his shitty behaviour with a handful of people who point out how he was actually a major factor in creating the "community" he is now the "victim" of.

These cancel culture sjws never expect the leopards to eat their face until the leopards actually eat their faces...

I have no sympathy for him and hypocrites like him. You reap what you sow, Adam...

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Shasarak · June 09, 2020, 05:21:33 PM

My 2 cents, he should have double downed, rounded up another group of players to play and just kept on streaming.

When the mob comes for you then you just have to unleash your inner Rooftop Korean.

insubordinate polyhedral · June 09, 2020, 05:29:58 PM

He's an asshat, but he doesn't deserve what happened to him. Unjust actions are unjust even when applied to deserving targets. I'm sorry that it seems that he didn't learn much from this, and I'm also sorry that it happened to him. He lost a lot of hard work and he didn't deserve that. Mobs are awful, and this ruining people over nonsense and nothing has got to stop.

SavageSchemer · June 09, 2020, 06:50:11 PM

Quote from: Altheus;1133223Yup, "Let he who is without fuckup cast the first stone" should be the principle here, not "You made one mistake, you're out!"

I am not surprised.

Quote"...for whatever a man might sow, that also he will reap."

Quote from: insubordinate polyhedral;1133326He's an asshat, but he doesn't deserve what happened to him. Unjust actions are unjust even when applied to deserving targets. I'm sorry that it seems that he didn't learn much from this, and I'm also sorry that it happened to him. He lost a lot of hard work and he didn't deserve that. Mobs are awful, and this ruining people over nonsense and nothing has got to stop.

Completely agree. Unfortunately nothing will stop until people quit pandering to the criminally* insane.

*While this varies a bit by state, in the US encouraging people to commit suicide is a crime, and there are many cases where manslaughter has been successfully prosecuted against people having no direct role in suicide.

Ninneveh · June 09, 2020, 06:57:38 PM

He chose to align himself with the puritan mobs, no surprise that it would come for him when he slipped up. What's sad is that he made a conscious decision to destroy his own business by letting the mob dictate his future. He should have kept on streaming and ignored the mob, because they will always find a new outrage to cancel once they get bored of trying to destroy you. But that would require backbone, which male feminists were never born with.

RPGPundit · June 10, 2020, 02:50:31 AM

Well, my hobby is my business, but of course I've never aligned myself to a nest of vipers...

Spinachcat · June 10, 2020, 05:26:30 AM

Quote from: Shasarak;1133323My 2 cents, he should have double downed, rounded up another group of players to play and just kept on streaming.

You're absolutely right. That would have been hilariously bold and the aftermath would have shown how many (or how few) of his audience were really offended. The mob will keep winning until people stand up against them.

Quote from: Shasarak;1133323When the mob comes for you then you just have to unleash your inner Rooftop Korean.

Rooftop Koreans are so 1992! In 2020, I identify as a Chainsaw Mexican!

DickFeynman · June 10, 2020, 10:57:36 AM

Koebel is the very definition of deserving it. It's the embodiment of the Golden Rule.

Of course he doesn't deserve it due to the idiotic infraction. He deserves it because he, over and over, participated in deplatforming mobs.He offers absolutely NO mercy to anyone who didn't toe the far left line.

When the far leftist never offers you a second chance while you offer him one, guess who goes extinct. You'll be muttering 'muh principles' as he leads you to the guillotine.

S'mon · June 10, 2020, 12:28:49 PM

Quote from: DickFeynman;1133405Koebel is the very definition of deserving it. It's the embodiment of the Golden Rule.

Of course he doesn't deserve it due to the idiotic infraction. He deserves it because he, over and over, participated in deplatforming mobs.He offers absolutely NO mercy to anyone who didn't toe the far left line.

When the far leftist never offers you a second chance while you offer him one, guess who goes extinct. You'll be muttering 'muh principles' as he leads you to the guillotine.

Eh, I know I'm a softie, but 'participated' is not the same as 'created'. Koebel is fundamentally a sheep; I reserve 90% of my vitriol for the wolves like Jessica Price & Chris Helton for whom ruining other peoples' lives is their primary activity.

This does not mean Koebel is not a jerk, an asshat and a creep. I don't have to like someone to empathise with them. That they wouldn't do the same is neither here nor there.

DickFeynman · June 10, 2020, 12:46:51 PM

Your willingness to empathize with someone who won't reciprocate is precisely here and there.

I understand your point. You represent probably most normies who are decent people. But "all that is required for evil to prevail is good men to do nothing." I see you're in London. Your mobs just defaced Churchill statues and are on the verge of wiping out your entire country's history not because of the 5% of far leftists on the street, but the 95% who either don't care or aren't willing to oppose them.

If you're cool with that, then I guess good luck with your new communist utopia. Koebel was of the freaks on the street calling for people's heads.[ATTACH=CONFIG]4545[/ATTACH]

Shrieking Banshee · June 10, 2020, 12:56:24 PM

The man looks like he landed in 12 different countercultures at once, and hasn't taken a bath to wash it off since.

I always chuckle that people like this that try to make themselves look as UGLY as possible in real life want cutesy avatars.

insubordinate polyhedral · June 10, 2020, 12:57:12 PM

Quote from: DickFeynman;1133431Your willingness to empathize with someone who won't reciprocate is precisely here and there.

I understand your point. You represent probably most normies who are decent people. But "all that is required for evil to prevail is good men to do nothing." I see you're in London. Your mobs just defaced Churchill statues and are on the verge of wiping out your entire country's history not because of the 5% of far leftists on the street, but the 95% who either don't care or aren't willing to oppose them.

If you're cool with that, then I guess good luck with your new communist utopia. Koebel was of the freaks on the street calling for people's heads.

Not S'mon, but, if I won't stand for the principle of what's right, who will? It's not the easy path, and it means occasionally speaking up for people who advocate for things that I strongly dislike and disagree with, like Koebel. It also doesn't mean "doing nothing" -- it means opposing wrongdoing wherever it happens and whoever it happens to. One of the scariest things to me is how dangerous it has become simply to debate and to think freely. That doesn't get better by looking the other way when the mob takes out targets who disagree with me.

DickFeynman · June 10, 2020, 01:38:36 PM

Quote from: insubordinate polyhedral;1133436Not S'mon, but, if I won't stand for the principle of what's right, who will? It's not the easy path, and it means occasionally speaking up for people who advocate for things that I strongly dislike and disagree with, like Koebel. It also doesn't mean "doing nothing" -- it means opposing wrongdoing wherever it happens and whoever it happens to. One of the scariest things to me is how dangerous it has become simply to debate and to think freely. That doesn't get better by looking the other way when the mob takes out targets who disagree with me.

Again, Golden Rule.

If the ideological opponent does NOT try to deplatform others, then I agree not to deplatform them.This was 95% of Democrats prior to 2015. But if they DO engage in deplatforming like Koebel, there's absolutely nothing noble about turning the cheek while they crush everyone on your side. It's just weakness once they've decided THEY are not going to debate.

"I don't believe in retaliation," said the Jew kneeling meekly in front of the trench seconds before the Nazi blew his head off.

S'mon · June 10, 2020, 01:46:53 PM

I don't think kicking Koebel when the SJWs are kicking Koebel is an anti-SJW move. I'd say consistently opposing SJW tactics (including "kill yourself now" from anonymous trolls, which also comes from 4chan goons) is both morally and practically right.

For that matter, if a guy I like were a creep, I'd condemn them just as I condemn Koebel. High profile non-SJWs are rarely creeps IME, but if say Venger Satanis raped a PC in some game he was streaming (which I doubt he would) I wouldn't let my liking for Venger stop me condemning him. But I wouldn't tell him he should kill himself either.