I bought Shadowrun 6th. edition when it first released with high hopes that they finally got it right, with the promises of a light crunch Shadowrun edition and all and ended up being sorely disappointed.  I love the setting but the BR rules have been ass for years.  I am now looking for a good cyberpunk replacement for the disappointing Shadowrun 6th. edition.  I've looked at Cyberpunk Red and I bought the starter box and liked the rules, since I enjoy rules lite and medium crunch games but am frustrated with how long it is taking them to release the full core rulebook.  I am taking a look at Carbon 2185 now as well.

What cyberpunk game would you go for? Should I wait for Cyberpunk Red or plunge into Carbon 2185 or somerthing else? What setting does it for you and what one has good mechanics that are rules lite to medium?

CP2020 with the supernatural expansion setting Nights Edge does a pretty good job.

Check out these Pay What You Want games from Bedroom Wall Press. The author used to be a member here, and a great poster, until he suffered terminal TDS and went total fruitcake.

WELCOME TO NEURO CITY
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/121828/Welcome-to-Neuro-City

ARCANA RISING
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/121426/Arcana-Rising

The most back handed referral ever haha  

 Stars Without Number + Polychrome  a good cyber choice with an imaginative spin on the setting concept.

https://sine-nomine-publishing.myshopify.com/collections/stars-without-number

Quote from: daddystabz;1132009I bought Shadowrun 6th. edition when it first released with high hopes that they finally got it right, with the promises of a light crunch Shadowrun edition and all and ended up being sorely disappointed.  I love the setting but the BR rules have been ass for years.  I am now looking for a good cyberpunk replacement for the disappointing Shadowrun 6th. edition.  I've looked at Cyberpunk Red and I bought the starter box and liked the rules, since I enjoy rules lite and medium crunch games but am frustrated with how long it is taking them to release the full core rulebook.  I am taking a look at Carbon 2185 now as well.

What cyberpunk game would you go for? Should I wait for Cyberpunk Red or plunge into Carbon 2185 or somerthing else? What setting does it for you and what one has good mechanics that are rules lite to medium?

Try Everywhen + Neonpunk Crysis

GURPS.

Just kidding. CP2020 is pretty slick No idea what the hell is going on with SR6E, I haven't had the chance to go through the book yet.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1132206GURPS.

Just kidding. CP2020 is pretty slick No idea what the hell is going on with SR6E, I haven't had the chance to go through the book yet.

Don't even bother with SR6. So many issues with rules missing or incomplete, rules that seem to have been added last minute, copy paste of gear with stats from 5e referencing things that no longer exist rules wise, and things that just make no sense (unarmed damage is the same no matter str and is fund buried in the text for grappling, armor has no real effect, etc).

I ran Sixth World for Dungeon World once and had fun.  The Sprawl for PbtA would be a non-magic version.

I'm reading through Altered Carbon right now (except for getting distracted by Soulbound and Taleb) which is a great setting -- not sure on the rules yet.

I'm actually really tempted to use Star Wars FFG for cyberpunk but that is a massive outlay for books if you weren't already collecting them.  The basic books don't really have enough to support this.

Quote from: Omega;1132025CP2020 with the supernatural expansion setting Nights Edge does a pretty good job.

^^This^^. Omega has given you the best recommendation.

Quote from: KingCheops;1132342I ran Sixth World for Dungeon World once and had fun.  The Sprawl for PbtA would be a non-magic version.

I'm reading through Altered Carbon right now (except for getting distracted by Soulbound and Taleb) which is a great setting -- not sure on the rules yet.

I'm actually really tempted to use Star Wars FFG for cyberpunk but that is a massive outlay for books if you weren't already collecting them.  The basic books don't really have enough to support this.

Why not just use FFG's Genesys system for cyberpunk via the Android Shadow of the Beanstalk book? It is cyberpunk in setting and uses the same system as their Star Wars games.

Quote from: lordmalachdrim;1132244Don't even bother with SR6. So many issues with rules missing or incomplete, rules that seem to have been added last minute, copy paste of gear with stats from 5e referencing things that no longer exist rules wise, and things that just make no sense (unarmed damage is the same no matter str and is fund buried in the text for grappling, armor has no real effect, etc).

Hadn't planned on buying it.

For what you're looking for -

Interface Zero 3.0

It already has all the built-in systems that you'd need. Psionics=Magic. And if you want actual Magic, it requires zero effort to simply add whatever you need from the Savage Worlds core books.

Quote from: daddystabz;1132516Why not just use FFG's Genesys system for cyberpunk via the Android Shadow of the Beanstalk book? It is cyberpunk in setting and uses the same system as their Star Wars games.

Mostly because I haven't purchased or read it.  I'm definitely interested.

Quote from: jeff37923;1132372^^This^^. Omega has given you the best recommendation.

I agree with Jeff on that. CP2020. If you don't like the Night's Edge stuff, reskin the Psionics from Mekton.

Quote from: tenbones;1132548For what you're looking for -

Interface Zero 3.0

It already has all the built-in systems that you'd need. Psionics=Magic. And if you want actual Magic, it requires zero effort to simply add whatever you need from the Savage Worlds core books.

2nd place goes to Tenbones.. i'm new to SW, but it's VERY slick and fast.