Quote from: Mistwell;11208053. Where the F did you get that data?

Probably the same place he got White Wolf ordering the Vampire LARPers to blackmail their own Players into enforcing the status quo.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120777White Wolf is turning the frogs into Vampires!

NOT AN ACTUAL QUOTE

But in essence that's what the MJW is saying. Not sure if I should laugh my ass off, cry or simply pray to the flying spaghetti monster someone close to him calls the men in white to come and put him in a padded room.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1120794So basically a MJW (aka moral justice warrior).

Basically yes, he lost his mind, someone should put him in a padded room before he hurts himself or someone else.

Quote from: jeff37923;1120806This is the most amusing post so far in this thread.

It reminds me of that guy on here who said there were white supremacist rape breeding camps secreted away in northern California somewhere.

It's like these guys were built in some thespy point-buy game system. "You must nominate one crazy thing your character believes passionately, which you absolutely must mention at a time when you are otherwise trying to establish your credibility."

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1120812It reminds me of that guy on here who said there were white supremacist rape breeding camps secreted away in northern California somewhere.

It's like these guys were built in some thespy point-buy game system. "You must nominate one crazy thing your character believes passionately, which you absolutely must mention at a time when you are otherwise trying to establish your credibility."

Greetings!

*Laughing* Fucking hilarious, Kyle!:D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

So...Gary Gygax named a race of bronze humans in Greyhawk after a famous caramel Mexican dessert?

LOL. Flan is tasty! No wonder monsters want to eat people.

Here's a Flan recipe! With a video!
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/20979/spanish-flan/

And it might not a be Mexican-only dish, but I've only seen it at Mexican restaurants. Totally better fresh at home though.

Quote from: PencilBoy99;1120666However, the story that has been told and is now the truth is that gaming was terribly repressive, and now this group has fixed the problem. Yes, it's the old pattern of a group that wants power making up a crisis that never existed in the first place, and then fixing the fake crisis. However, in this case, they've won. This is the story being told in the media, and this is what everyone except us will believe, even though it's clearly made up.

Hmm...this concept of "in this case, they've won" deserves its own thread discussion.  

I'm not in a position to agree or disagree because I don't know how this article is being received beyond our forum.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1120718I'm mad that my evil plan to turn table top gaming into Auchwitz had been foiled.

I have family who were murdered by the actual Nazis....

...and I'm laughing hysterically at Ratman's post!

Quote from: ShieldWife;1120756Unfortunately, geeky hobbies are increasingly becoming dominated by SJW's who are using them to push their odious hateful ideology.

While this is true online, the offline world is a different story.

As long as you can find 3-5 other deplorable inhuman monsters to game with, you can always have a great home game regardless of what's happening online.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1120779Vice Delenda Est

Fuck yeah....and we shall digitally salt their broken URL so no bytes can grow there again!!!

May "go woke, go broke" visit its delicious wrath upon their bottom line!

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120777I'm pretty sure White Wolf blackmailed a lot of their players into being loyal followers by getting compromising photos of their players at after hours parties at game shows, and then using that as leverage to exploit them and have them in turn, attempt to exploit others.

White Wolf's Vampire, especially its LARPs, provided a conduit between the gamer and goth subculture.

Which meant gamer dorks got laid.

White Wolf didn't need to exploit anyone. Vampire LARPS offered the very real possibility that dice tossers would get their knobs wet, aka the most powerful mind control drug in human existence.

At its height, Vampire was the RPG with benefits!

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1120812It's like these guys were built in some thespy point-buy game system. "You must nominate one crazy thing your character believes passionately, which you absolutely must mention at a time when you are otherwise trying to establish your credibility."

THAT would be a truly fun Disadvantage to roleplay for GURPS or HERO.

Quote from: Snark Knight;1120752it will never cease to amuse me that they fawn over a game where you insert as a supremely powerful, influential race of predators who conduct an extended analogy for sexual assault on vulnerable victims.

I know, right?

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120758I don't think that Dungeons and Dragons, especially 5th edition, is a game about an "influential race of predators who conduct an extended analogy for sexual assault on vulnerable victims."

No, that's Vampire: The Masquerade.

Dungeons and Dragons is a game about a group of privileged adventurers colonizing the spaces of oppressed minorities.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120764Says the guy(s) supporting the guy who says, and I quote "Although it will never cease to amuse me that they fawn over a game where you insert as a supremely powerful, influential race of predators who conduct an extended analogy for sexual assault on vulnerable victims." all the while referring to D&D and 5e linking them inextricably in the minds of all readers with the "woke" losers who are intent on making all games (as many as they can)  like this.

Again, they're talking about Vampire: The Masquerade.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120771Really? In this thread about Vice's article specifically naming 5e Vampire the Masquerade?

Exactl...

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120771This is not 5th edition Vampire they are slamming in the Vice article, it's D&D, and specifically the 5e D&D version of Vampire.

...nevermind.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120771To be clear, this article also disparaged Evil Hat's Fate of Cthulu and Numenara

It did exactly the opposite!

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120771I don't think that Dungeons and Dragons, especially 5th edition, is a game about an 'influential race of predators who conduct an extended analogy for sexual assault on vulnerable victims. '

*sigh*

Quote from: GameDaddy;1120777I'm pretty sure White Wolf blackmailed a lot of their players into being loyal followers by getting compromising photos of their players at after hours parties at game shows, and then using that as leverage to exploit them and have them in turn, attempt to exploit others.

At least you're not accusing them of being a Death Cult.

Quote from: Snark Knight;1120767Mate, I will actually pay you to get the detector fixed at this point.

We're already paying for it.

Quote from: Mistwell;11208051. 2020 Census doesn't begin counting until April so how the heck is there a 2020 Census estimate data?
2. What happened to hispanic/latino in your data? Sure looks like that's been counted as "white"?
3. Where the F did you get that data?

1. People have been already working on the Census here since the middle of last year.
2. Good question. Remember I am in Indiana original home of both the Ku Klux Klan, as well as the FBI. Not much has changed here in a hundred years, however people will let you believe what you want, so getting accurate data can be challenging. A good baseline would be the Midwest data I suppose, however there are fewer latinos in rural Indiana, I'd personally estimate 6-7% of the total population here.
3.  https://www.governing.com/gov-data/census/state-minority-population-data-estimates.html    is one of the sites I gleaned some data from, also Wikipedia.. also, a couple other places...
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race

Quote from: jeff37923;1120807Probably the same place he got White Wolf ordering the Vampire LARPers to blackmail their own Players into enforcing the status quo.

I doubt it was an official order from White Wolf... I should have taken photos. Anyway just a tiny bit of what happened has come out in other venues...  Some of White Wolf's enclaves, and coven misbehavior goes back much further than 2012-2013 by the way.

Official Statement from Onyx Path from last year
http://theonyxpath.com/about-matt-mcfarland/

Stepping away after being called out publicly.
https://www.geeknative.com/64591/game-designer-matthew-mcfarland-closes-his-company-after-abuse-allegations/

here is the public document on the Camarilla secret societies. What do you suppose would be sensitive enough to be private
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HST91zpiHnfuXGKc_lgxpzOzPHMdEpyHz5fsrB5UzgQ/edit

Acts like a cult? Yep
Compartmentalizes to control information: Yep

Status Quo for the Sabbat
Support your local leader; your loyalty will be rewarded.
Status is the most important thing.
The Code of Milan will be the law of the land.
The pecking order is clear.
Support the Sabbat Inquisition and the Black Hand.
If the system is not broken, leave it alone.
Secretly support sieges and crusades while deriding them as unnecessary wastes of resources that could be better utilized somewhere else.
Do not favor removal of officers of the Sabbat unless absolutely necessary to preserve the tenets of the Sect.

...and on, and on.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1120812It reminds me of that guy on here who said there were white supremacist rape breeding camps secreted away in northern California somewhere.

It's like these guys were built in some thespy point-buy game system. "You must nominate one crazy thing your character believes passionately, which you absolutely must mention at a time when you are otherwise trying to establish your credibility."

Yes in California, and doubtless in many of other places there was a White Wolf enclave, coven, or clan. Stick your head in the sand all you want like some damned ostrich, that won't change the facts. I'm just glad I steered clear of them.
https://rpggeek.com/thread/2151679/further-development-matt-mcfarland-accusations

What does an SJW circular firing squad have to do with Vampire: the Adolescent Thespening?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1120821White Wolf didn't need to exploit anyone. Vampire LARPS offered the very real possibility that dice tossers would get their knobs wet, aka the most powerful mind control drug in human existence.
At its height, Vampire was the RPG with benefits!

You got that part right. With some clans and individuals within the clans there was more to it, than that.

I'm also glad I never used or had to use an RPG to get laid. Just, sayin.

My own personal take on what "Evil Hat" says in this Vice article, unashamedly biased :

- in the dark times before the Great Woke Awakening, RPG players were bigots and racists
- but we at Evil Hat saw the Light
- and then we published rules inspired by BDSM philosophy
- because Elf games are so much  improved by BDSM-aware designers  (whipping one's sub sex slave and inserting spindly things in its ass is a great framework for medieval fantasy RPGs, you know !)

- also, everyone who disagrees with us is a Fascist !

- but can I please hurl "milshakes" at people I don't agree with ? because I sometimes dream about real physical violence, and it makes my panties wet...

All charming people.

Y'know? It just occurred to me that Fate of Cthulhu isn't the first time Evil Hat has shown such hypocrisy by capitalizing on "problematic" IP. I'm talking of course of the "we think Lovecraft was a right evil bastard but we're so very happy to make a game based on his mythos and sell it" thing. The first time was with none other than the Dresden Files. I remember discussions some time ago about how both Jim Butcher and Harry Dresden are soooo very "problematic" (aka Not Woke) but the Evil Hat crew pressed ahead anyway. This on the grounds that Butcher is a personal friend of the Hat and it's a coveted property and goddamn does Evil Hat need the cash.