Evil Hat's creating this:

"In Development: Fate Decolonization Toolkit
Sometimes we like role-playing games to help us escape from real-world struggles. Other times, we need the catharsis of a fictionalized struggle against injustice to prepare us to return to the everyday struggle. For those times, there's the Fate Decolonization Toolkit.

Under the creative direction of James Mendez Hodes, this book will show players how to include colonial powers as antagonists in their games, as well as how to create characters who fight against them. It breaks colonial domination down into its component systems of oppression such as violent conquest, the prison-industrial complex, theocracy, and ecological exploitation. Real-world examples expressed with Fate mechanisms will illustrate each of these systems, mapping out how you can apply them to your own games. It also will include a complete campaign frame which calls on the players to decolonize a fantasy setting; and a discussion of how to use safety tools to keep the process empowering and educational, not exploitative.

Even if you don't play Fate, you may find it a useful reference point if you ever want to speak frankly about, or play safely near, systemic oppression in creative media."

I got it in an e-mail and even considering the unsurprising source, figured it would be entertaining to see the braniacs here rip it apart with logic.

This part in particular stuck out: "we need the catharsis of a fictionalized struggle against injustice to prepare us to return to the everyday struggle". This makes this product go from weird to creepy, as if it's some DIY manual for crushing the oppression to be outlined in the book. And I wonder who the Big Bads will be? 🤔

Also, RTG gave this sample of Cyberpunk Red art. Sexy.

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Does anyone else find it ironic that people making and playing games in rich, industrialized nations are complaining about "systemic oppression"? I wonder if Evil Hat will send all the kids starving in Africa a copy of this so they can play FATE instead of scrounging for food.

Quote from: Brad;1119826Does anyone else find it ironic that people making and playing games in rich, industrialized nations are complaining about "systemic oppression"? I wonder if Evil Hat will send all the kids starving in Africa a copy of this so they can play FATE instead of scrounging for food.

No, because that's work and hurts their already thin bottom line. Bitching on Twitter using an iPhone is much easier. Adam Jury of Eclipse Phase fame is another "Capitalisms and white, mean things are bad!" type while Kickstarting an RPG, so people of that ilk do absolutely nothing to convince me they're anything less than cowards.

Late edit but after some thought dragging Adam into it wasn’t right. I disagree with him on many things but my comment ended up being a cheap shot and shouldn’t have been taken. That makes me no better than the things I’m complaining about.

This makes me have a perverse wish to play as a colonial elf soldier oppressing dwarves somewhere.


Oh...wait, that was a lie. Nothing ever makes me want to play an elf.

Quote from: BronzeDragon;1119831This makes me have a perverse wish to play as a colonial elf soldier oppressing dwarves somewhere.


Oh...wait, that was a lie. Nothing ever makes me want to play an elf.

Colonial dwarf oppressing elves, then?

Lmao. Evil Hat does it again! I can't wait to watch the inevitable furious circle-jerking over at TBP, like the current sensitivity-bukkake over Fate of Cthulhu (and other various supplements before that). "Gosh oh Golly, Evil Hat is just such a stand-up company! Doubt I'll be able find time to play this, but it's worth having in print anyway just to support such important, outstanding work! You guys rock! Totally picking this up when my parents give me my allowance this week! Wish every game company were like this!" :rolleyes:

I fully expect Evil Hat's next """game""" supplement to be even more impressive. "Fate of the Patriarchy" perhaps? "Fate of the Gender Pay Gap?" "Fate of the Proletariat?" "Fate Manifesto Toolkit?" "Fate Elections Tweeting Toolkit?"

I already wasn't buying anything they had any hand in.  So nothing has changed.

Will there be any support for running a campaign where a traditional society with strict gender roles and traditional sexual ethics resists the colonialism of rich white liberals and NGOs overseas, who are pressuring it to change and conform to the very latest western ideas about equality and gender?

No?

How very odd.

I really believe we reached peak Social Justice back in 2019, and the tide turned against it. Just look at the success of the Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr Stand Up Specials, the complete bombing of Charlie's Angels and Terminator Dark Fate. Throw in Ricky Gervais's speech.. and Social Justice in mainstream media... is beginning to die. It's not dead yet, but you can see that it's on it's way out. The Normies have gotten sick of it, and the capitalist driven companies are finally taking notice.

...However... it'll still be a few more years before the TTRPG industry catches up. Monte Cook released his "Consent in gaming" supplement, and hey here comes Fate with it's Decolonization supplement. I figure we'll still get a few more hold outs for a bit, Monet Cook and Evil Hat are big names in RPG culture, and they'll always crusade with Social Justice First.... RPG game second.. they've already fully committed to it, they can't back out now...

But, I bet it'll be less brought up in other companies. I do believe we WILL have more diverse products, and that's a good thing. I really don't see a problem with say... Black people running around in Faerun or Ebberon.. it's a setting that's not normal Earth, there's no issue with different human ethnicities having propagated further in those settings... Hell, I don't have a problem with it in 7th Sea Second edition because it plainly says, "There's less historical Xenophobia in the world of Theah, so there's been more immigration between people in the world.." and a Black guy from Avalon (Basically England) still acts like a dude from Avalon, Avalon is his culture.. so I don't have a problem with him being Knighted by the Queen and being part of her Royal Guard. Let more people participate in fantasy together..

But we'll probably see companies less bending over backwards to show how woke they are, and pointing out how diverse they are for those brownie points... and hopefully get back to just trying to make good games again.

I dont know if Monte Cook has been completely taken by the SJW infection yet but certainly Shanna Germain has as per the "Consent in Gaming" supplement.

If you can't make something good, make something preachy.

Quote from: Shasarak;1119845I dont know if Monte Cook has been completely taken by the SJW infection yet but certainly Shanna Germain has as per the "Consent in Gaming" supplement.

MCG isn't anywhere near the level of fuckery EH is, even with their Cozy List of Making People Feel Gooder and I haven't seen them outright insult patrons.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1119822Evil Hat's creating this:

"In Development: Fate Decolonization Toolkit
Sometimes we like role-playing games to help us escape from real-world struggles. Other times, we need the catharsis of a fictionalized struggle against injustice to prepare us to return to the everyday struggle. For those times, there's the Fate Decolonization Toolkit.

Under the creative direction of James Mendez Hodes, this book will show players how to include colonial powers as antagonists in their games, as well as how to create characters who fight against them. It breaks colonial domination down into its component systems of oppression such as violent conquest, the prison-industrial complex, theocracy, and ecological exploitation. Real-world examples expressed with Fate mechanisms will illustrate each of these systems, mapping out how you can apply them to your own games. It also will include a complete campaign frame which calls on the players to decolonize a fantasy setting; and a discussion of how to use safety tools to keep the process empowering and educational, not exploitative.

Even if you don't play Fate, you may find it a useful reference point if you ever want to speak frankly about, or play safely near, systemic oppression in creative media."

You know, if you can strip the SJW wankery out of this then it may actually be a good product.  In a Fantasy game you can have literal Nazis in charge so being able to run the PCs against them could be an interesting change of pace similar to the old "What if Sauron won" type scenario

As I mentioned, their lack of self-awareness coupled with their self-loathing will likely ensure it'll be a quagmire of SJW shit to find a nugget of fun.

Quote from: Orphan81;1119842I really believe we reached peak Social Justice back in 2019, and the tide turned against it. Just look at the success of the Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr Stand Up Specials, the complete bombing of Charlie's Angels and Terminator Dark Fate. Throw in Ricky Gervais's speech.. and Social Justice in mainstream media... is beginning to die. It's not dead yet, but you can see that it's on it's way out. The Normies have gotten sick of it, and the capitalist driven companies are finally taking notice.

...However... it'll still be a few more years before the TTRPG industry catches up.

The tide of woke crusading could very well recede in mainstream pop culture. However, I expect it to persist - even intensify - in sub-cultures dominated by the demographic who embrace woke dogma as their core moral identity. That demographic includes many creative types in tabletop gaming.