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Massive Layoffs at FFG

Started by Shasarak, January 07, 2020, 08:05:33 PM

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tenbones

Quote from: Antiquation!;1118480You shut your mouth and be cleansed, fiend. :mad:

Well Slaanesh has already won and given you WH4e...

nope

Quote from: tenbones;1118488Well Slaanesh has already won and given you WH4e...

God of pleasure indeed...

tenbones

Quote from: Antiquation!;1118490God of pleasure indeed...

Well I think only Slaanesh is pleased with WH4e... we don't count.

RandyB

Quote from: tenbones;1118488Well Slaanesh has already won and given you WH4e...

Quote from: Antiquation!;1118490God of pleasure indeed...

Quote from: tenbones;1118506Well I think only Slaanesh is pleased with WH4e... we don't count.

Just As Planned... ;)

hedgehobbit

Quote from: Omega;1118474I doubt it as the new Arkham Horror seems to be selling ok. But Eldritch Horror, the card games, etc seem to not be moving. But that may just be local quirks.
The third edition of Arkham Horror has gotten universally bad reviews. It's not a terrible game but it's bland. The Arkham Horror Card Game is a great game but they've been producing expansions at an excessive rate. I'm probably four "cycles" behind.

There's also been trouble with X-Wing's new edition. FFG had to cancel a product for the first time and sales seem to be down overall (since much of the product is just reprints from first edition).

HappyDaze

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1118520The third edition of Arkham Horror has gotten universally bad reviews. It's not a terrible game but it's bland. The Arkham Horror Card Game is a great game but they've been producing expansions at an excessive rate. I'm probably four "cycles" behind.

There's also been trouble with X-Wing's new edition. FFG had to cancel a product for the first time and sales seem to be down overall (since much of the product is just reprints from first edition).

What did they have to cancel?

hedgehobbit

Quote from: HappyDaze;1118524What did they have to cancel?
The 2nd edition version of the X-Wing Imperial Raider.

Also, just a clarification. FFG Interactive didn't do the apps for the various games (like the X-Wing app). That's done by Asmodee Interactive.

Thornhammer

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1118520There's also been trouble with X-Wing's new edition. FFG had to cancel a product for the first time and sales seem to be down overall (since much of the product is just reprints from first edition).

Apparently Imperial Assault has assumed room temperature.  Armada has some releases coming and Legion seems to be doing reasonably well with a big Clone Wars push coming shortly.

I think I'm about caught up on Imperials, need at AT-ST and some Snowtroopers and the E-web.

Then another unit of Deathtroopers, maybe more Shoretroopers...

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Ole Pundit happy at the news color me surprised.

I think FFG like too many rpg companies had too many IPs to deal with. As well I think their proprietary dice turned potential gamers off. Yes their were ways around buying and using the dice, it was not up to gamers to do so. Even the new Star Trek rpg while having its own  proprietary dice are not required to use and much easier to use than FFG funky dice. The same thing they did with their 40K rpgs with multiple core books which were mostly reprints with a few new rules was also not going to get the average gamer to want to spend money buying multiple core books. The lack of PDFs which in this day and age is inexcusable. Granted it may not be FFG fault yet nothing will stop piracy and might as well make some money off legal PDFs.

It's too bad though because reading the system it was pretty decent and fixed some of the falws of D6 Star Wars as well.

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: RPGPundit;1119259

Why the joy at their failure? Is this one of those "They played games the wrong way!" things?

Reckall

Let's not forget how all the Star Wars merchandising is down due to the bad reception of the new Trilogy (when they say that it has been "divisive" it means that it sucked especially hard).

The people I know who still play Star Wars' RPG either use the d6/d20 rules of yore, or FFG rules set in the OT - with the Expanded Universe as a source of ideas (you know, the one that Disney totally ditched when they bought the SW brand...)
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

tenbones

I never *once* used any of their material set in the modern era.

And I got my money's worth. I'll happily give thousands of dollars to any company/individual that provides me with the amount of gaming material free of bullshit politics, that gave me as much enjoyment for my gaming group, and myself as FFG's Star Wars. It was a good run. All things come to an end with licensed IP's. I'd say FFG got 99% of what they needed. I'd have loved an mini-line set in the Revan Old Republic era... but oh well.

Chocolate Sauce

I never like any FFG games. They always had a boner for tokens and crap that took up space, but that's really sad to hear. Hope they all find something better very soon.

Snowman0147

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1119265Why the joy at their failure? Is this one of those "They played games the wrong way!" things?

They made a lot of stupid actions that lead to this.  Yeah it sucks for people on the ground floor who can't call the shots, but for those on top I feel like they deserve it.  They still could making dark heresy games, but instead pissed off Games Workshop if the rumors are true.  Not to mention the specialty dice is another good way to scare off those that may want to purchase your tabletop rpgs.  Stick with the number dice like everyone else for crying out loud.  Your not being innovated your just being stupid by limiting yourself like that.

I mean the best example of how stupid FFG can be is with Dark Heresy Second Edition.  Instead of making tweaks here and there they decided to go with a brand new system.  It divided the community in half with those that favored it and those that hated it.  Then came gen con and once FFG found out they got a fucking dud on their hands they immediately made Dark Heresy 2.0 into the older system that is similar to Black Crusade/Imperial Guard rules.  Which all of it could had been prevented if they stuck with the old rule system instead of this weirdo system that people in their own forum told them was going to fail.  Hell I had my players test it out and we tried to figure out rate of fire rules for a hour.  Mind you the actual combat was only ten minutes long.

So yes FFG does deserve what it got.  The employees don't, but the big wigs of the company do.