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I have an issue in my current RPG group. One I hqve tried to address. But failed to.

Started by Darrin Kelley, October 08, 2017, 03:02:37 PM

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Opaopajr

Goood, purge the venomous frustration latent within you! :D It's ipecac for the soul.
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soltakss

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;999415Jesus, I said "have an adult conversation," not "form a fucking lynch mob."

"He knows so much about everything that we feel useless and it's not really fun for us" is neither rude nor angry, but a statement of perceptions.  If a bunch of people older than 16 can't work that out, fuck 'em all.

There you go, talking all sensible again. It'll have to stop, you know!
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soltakss

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1099565Mr. Special Snowflake doesn't. It always has to be all about him. And he even dominates the table talk with same stories over and over again about how great his characters were in past campaigns.

"That's great, we've heard it, is it relevant to the current game? No? Shut up then!". Repeat ad nauseum.
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deadDMwalking

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1099565We've had the adult conversations many times. With the GM and Mr. Special Snowflake. The GM listens and acts on how things are requested by the other players.

Mr. Special Snowflake doesn't. It always has to be all about him. And he even dominates the table talk with same stories over and over again about how great his characters were in past campaigns.

I'm not the only person to have complained. Pretty much every other player has too. They want to get on with having fun in the game. Creating our own fun and memories. Instead of being drug around by Mr. Special Snowflake's star of the show.

If there are no consequences, it will continue.

I suggest you tell the DM that you haven't been enjoying the game lately because of the antics of this particular player.  Tell the DM that you'd like to take a break from the game.  Since Mr. Snowflake walked away for months, there shouldn't be any problem with you also doing so.  During your break, look around for another table or two.  Mr. Snowflake needs an audience, and if you (and other players) don't provide it to him, he'll be gone again and the GM will be asking you back.  OR seeing that there are limits to what you'll accept, the GM will opt to tell Mr. Snowflake that he is no longer welcome and invite you back.
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Darrin Kelley

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1099655If there are no consequences, it will continue.

I suggest you tell the DM that you haven't been enjoying the game lately because of the antics of this particular player.  Tell the DM that you'd like to take a break from the game.  Since Mr. Snowflake walked away for months, there shouldn't be any problem with you also doing so.  During your break, look around for another table or two.  Mr. Snowflake needs an audience, and if you (and other players) don't provide it to him, he'll be gone again and the GM will be asking you back.  OR seeing that there are limits to what you'll accept, the GM will opt to tell Mr. Snowflake that he is no longer welcome and invite you back.

Actually. The GM complained last session about Mr. Special Snowflake doing that exact same thing. So the message has definitely gotten through.

I don't feel I have to drop the hammer of god on the GM. He gets it. And he is just as fed up as the rest of us are.

He commented that the last sessions have been nothing but fun with just two players.
 

Bren

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1099674He commented that the last sessions have been nothing but fun with just two players.
If only there were some way, something he could do so that he had only 2 players. :p
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Kyle Aaron

I feel that loudly speaking over people, mockery and derision are under-used at most game tables.

That's how I keep the game session moving along. As player as well as DM. We are there to kill things and take their stuff. We are not there to discuss at length how best to kill things and take their stuff, or listen to your boring stories of this other time you killed things and took their stuff. We are there to kill things and take their stuff.

I'll bet that fucker doesn't even bring snacks.
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Darrin Kelley

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1099947I'll bet that fucker doesn't even bring snacks.

Only for himself. When he shows up. But he won't hesitate to take from others when it is offered. And he works a job that pulls in far more money than pretty much everybody else that goes to the games.
 

Kyle Aaron

Well there you go.

A while back a coach was asked how you could tell a good gym. "Do they have or allow chalk?" he said, "If they don't have or allow chalk, they're not a good gym."

Same with gamers. If they don't bring and share snacks, they're not a good gamer. It sounds flippant, but it's true. The best gamers do things which contribute to the fun and success of the group as a whole. Bringing and sharing snacks shows you're thinking of the happiness of others. Not bringing and sharing them shows you're oblivious to others, and thinking just of yourself.
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Opaopajr

Aw, I didn't know some gyms catered to people taking art breaks. How thoughtful! :o Do they provide slateboards or sidewalks? :) And would it be rude if I brough my own bucket of colored sidewalk chalk?
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Darrin Kelley

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1100167Well there you go.

A while back a coach was asked how you could tell a good gym. "Do they have or allow chalk?" he said, "If they don't have or allow chalk, they're not a good gym."

Same with gamers. If they don't bring and share snacks, they're not a good gamer. It sounds flippant, but it's true. The best gamers do things which contribute to the fun and success of the group as a whole. Bringing and sharing snacks shows you're thinking of the happiness of others. Not bringing and sharing them shows you're oblivious to others, and thinking just of yourself.

I'm broke most of the time. And I still bring money for snacks.

I only had $11 on me on saturday. And I still bought a bag of pretzels at the 7-Eleven for the GM.

And when I go to the local burger place, I offer the GM and the rest of the table some of the fries or onion rings I buy. (That burger place is legendary for the massive portions of fries and onion rings they sell.)
 

S'mon

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1100167Same with gamers. If they don't bring and share snacks, they're not a good gamer. It sounds flippant, but it's true. The best gamers do things which contribute to the fun and success of the group as a whole. Bringing and sharing snacks shows you're thinking of the happiness of others. Not bringing and sharing them shows you're oblivious to others, and thinking just of yourself.

That does fit my experience pretty well - the best in-game player is likely also the player bringing fresh baked cookies and the player painting the GM's minis for an upcoming game...

soltakss

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1100130Only for himself. When he shows up. But he won't hesitate to take from others when it is offered. And he works a job that pulls in far more money than pretty much everybody else that goes to the games.

Oh, you should have led with that.

Ban him and put the word around so he never plays RPGs again.

Of course, if he started to bring snacks, then welcome him back into the RPG fold with open arms.
Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism  since 1982.

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Darrin Kelley

I wanted to post an update on the campaign while I am fresh from it.

We won! We defeated the bad guys and cut the final cords that linked us to Mr. Special Snowflake's character tonight! We are free! And our characters are in charge of their own destinies. We got the victory condition on the campaign's biggest story. And the characters are now up for bold new adventures.

So the game continues. But in a new direction. And everybody is happy.
 

Kyle Aaron

The Viking Hat GM
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