Quote from: SavageSchemer;1093952...and use textbook definition Fascist methods and philosophies in their so-called anti-fascism crusade...

As Anti-fascists have always done.

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1093954And history is going to show that, when these people were given their "big shot" to turn things in their favor, they went completely off the deep end and killed it on their own. I accept I can be wrong on this one, but I don't think "their time" will come again. At least in my thinking not before the collapse of society itself (an event that bodes very poorly for them, historically speaking).

History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes and yes, every time a society has moved towards toleration of something previously considered deviant, the former deviants NEVER just take the win. The activists among them ALWAYS push even further until finally the actual majority of the population (despite what the media is selling the entire LGBTBBQ population is maybe 3-4% of the population) finally says "Enough of this shit" and then the whole lot of them (activists and those who would have been just as happy living quietly) get the blowback.

It's like there's something in the most damaged of them that just demands they keep pushing the envelope... that they can't actually be "happy" if they're not on the bleeding edge of the deviancy envelope (I mean, if they're just accepted as normal... how can they be special?).

The problem for WotC (to keep this on topic) is that the RPG niche in generally a lagging indicator, what with its multi-year development cycle followed by a 5-10 year shelf life for an edition's core books.

The problem is that 5e's first release is coming up on its five-year anniversary in just a few days here (the free Basic Rules came out July 3, 2014) so even by the edition lifespans in TSR days its pushing middle age and its already matched or outlasted 3e (2000-2003), 3.5e (2003-2008) and 4e (2008-2012) every other WotC-era edition. They may not have actually started development on 6e yet, but they've at least got the start date for development in the date book at this point.

Whether Mike Mearls manages to stay on via enough "mia culpas" or he gets replaced by a SJW moonbat, development work for 6e is almost certain to come right at "peak wokeness", but with the typical three-year development cycle probably won't be released until after "woke" has cratered and because its owned by Hasbro not a private company, a failed SJW-edition might actually be enough to kill official D&D for good.

Best case scenario for official D&D is actually that Mearls holds onto his job and forestalls any 6e development until the trends show "woke" to be on the way the out (we're already seeing that trend on the fringes like that study, but to reach a density where shareholders will kick it to the curb needs a few more years). Then a more reasonable 6e (likely in a 1e-2e level of changes vein) drops in 2024 for the 50th anniversary of OD&D.

Worst case scenario is Hasbro ousts him soon and puts an SJW in charge who decides to push a 6e out in some sort of show of woke solidarity during the 2020 election season.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1093942Personally, I"m not pro-LGBT. I think the movement has gone off the rails with SJW identity politics. I accept all players of good character, and don't care if they're gay or whatever, but they can keep their politics in their back pocket at my table while we play.

The problem is that sexuality defines them, be it theirs or others. There is no way for them to just let it be or else they whither and die.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1093919Really? Have you ever seen an actual Nazi? Not the make believe "Nazis" the Left sees (i.e. everyone who doesn't agree with the Left), but an actual Nazi? Did you punch them?

I must admit that it is very moreish.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1093841Many "Nazis" where you are? I've never saw one in person.

Not many around these here parts but . . . I have seen a Neo-Nazi, believe it or not a brown one. I mean in person and talked with him. Somehow the idiot thought Auntie Adolph wouldn't have exterminated his ancestors because reasons. And we do have a small group of them, they call themselves "El Frente Nacional" (The National Front) and on the other side of the Rio Grande there's "La Raza", ethno-nationalists too, not sure if they are Nazis tho.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1093982"La Raza", ethno-nationalists too, not sure if they are Nazis tho.

I have a lot of experience with La Raza; I'd definitely call them fascists. Is there such thing as an existing real Nazi, though? I thought they were strictly members of the Third Reich.

Quote from: Brad;1093983I have a lot of experience with La Raza; I'd definitely call them fascists. Is there such thing as an existing real Nazi, though? I thought they were strictly members of the Third Reich.

Neo-Nazis then, meaning they agree and follow the same ideology as the Third Reich.

Honestly, this whole thing is a case-study in why you don't interface with the public on social and political issues.

The minute you start trying to placate the far-left through virtue signaling, or whatever, you are putting a target on your back. Mearls isn't a bad guy--he isn't like Jeff Dee or one of these real commie dbags. But he made the mistake of trying to be friends with people  who are damaged and crazy.

Quote from: Silas1066;1093987Honestly, this whole thing is a case-study in why you don't interface with the public on social and political issues.

The minute you start trying to placate the far-left through virtue signaling, or whatever, you are putting a target on your back. Mearls isn't a bad guy--he isn't like Jeff Dee or one of these real commie dbags. But he made the mistake of trying to be friends with people  who are damaged and crazy.

Why is Jeff Dee a commie dbag?

So isnt Zak S the guy who had a bad break up and his ex went on social media and told everyone what a huge douche bag he was?  I remember some stuff about him being a bit of a creeper around some women too, but can not recall.  The thing is, If we judge every person by what an ex says.....  I have no doubt the guy was a toolbag, but, that means this other dude should get fired for not immediately blacklisting him for.....allegations?   Sheeesh.  Due process....what is it good for?

Quote from: oggsmash;1094019So isnt Zak S the guy who had a bad break up and his ex went on social media and told everyone what a huge douche bag he was?  I remember some stuff about him being a bit of a creeper around some women too, but can not recall.  The thing is, If we judge every person by what an ex says.....  I have no doubt the guy was a toolbag, but, that means this other dude should get fired for not immediately blacklisting him for.....allegations?   Sheeesh.  Due process....what is it good for?

There were a lot of other women too, but his ex was how he got away with it before since people would go "well his girlfriend vouches for him so he must be OK", and now that's gone and everyone already didn't like him.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1094030There were a lot of other women too, but his ex was how he got away with it before since people would go "well his girlfriend vouches for him so he must be OK", and now that's gone and everyone already didn't like him.

  Still, what does that have to do with the other guy getting fired?   If there is a trail of paper documenting assaults or the like I could see it, but if it is something that just sort of always swirled around.....he can not be blamed for not giving the guy the axe based on rumor.

Quote from: oggsmash;1094034Still, what does that have to do with the other guy getting fired?

That's what I've been trying to figure out. According to some of the tweets it has something to do with "doxxing", but I'm not sure what that is. Something like publishing people's information on the Internet in an unwanted way? I'm unclear how Mike Mearls is involved, or even more than just tangentially associated, with this other fellow.

I remember Mike Mearls making a statement acknowledging Zak S.'s involvement with 5th edition and given what came to light etc. etc. he would no longer be associated with the product, but that's it.

Perhaps someone else has a better idea how these two people are related?

//Panjumanju

At the end of the day, the SJWs' accusations don't have to be proven.

They believe that accusations always equal guilt, so therefore Mike Mearls is guilty of something.

Hey Mike, thanks for your contributions to 5th Edition being a cool game.  Stop trying to reason with the SJWs.  They don't understand reason.

If someone throws Mike under the bus, it will not satisfy the stupid outrage brigade.  They will immediately choose someone else to persecute.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1093837These people are mentally ill.  One even likes 4E.   Nuts.

Of all crimes, this is the one that truly merits the death penalty.

The horror.........the horror....