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Offensive RPGs

Started by myleftnut, May 05, 2019, 05:16:08 PM

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Kyle Aaron

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser;1086423As a fairly traditionally religious Catholic (though not a very good one) I personally found the game The Last Exodus to be extremely offensive, and these days I tend to get annoyed by any game which grabs Jewish or Christian angelology tropes and then beats them out of recognizeable shape for their own purposes.
I had a Vampire GM who was a lapsed Orthodox Jew (now Wiccan) who had the characters being vampires in the service of the Israeli state do a kiddush ceremony with blood in place of wine, and a lesbian nightclub where vampire women were feeding on each-other's genitals which, being vampires, regrew rapidly. I found her description of the scene a bit... excessive.

Aside from that, Shoah was a Wraith supplement, where you played the ghosts of Holocaust victims. Though I'm not sure that's offensive so much as just fucking depressing.

But I second the motion that the OP just get a game group. Being a BNG makes you crazy.
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nDervish

Quote from: jhkim;1086453World of Darkness: Gypsies has caused some offense over its portrayal of real-world ethnicity.

Although the portrayal certainly didn't help, I'm pretty sure the title alone would have been enough to set some people off.  A couple years ago, I was having dinner with a US-based friend who's a pretty serious (local-level) bellydancer and didn't really know what to do when she started talking about having to make peace with "the G-word".  I mean, yeah, I know there are people who have issues with the word "gypsy", but that's the only time I've seen it put in the same category as "the N-word" or "F-bombs".

Quote from: jhkim;1086453I'm a big fan of Macho Women With Guns, but I don't recall seeing anyone expressing offense over it.

I grabbed a copy of MWWG when it first came out, and I'm willing to admit that it was purely for the artwork.  But, when I read it, I was pleasantly surprised to find a good, well-designed system behind it.

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1086477I found her description of the scene a bit... excessive.

I can imagine. (I wish I couldn't.) :eek:

On a broader note, I remember some discussions from TBP (back in the early 2000s when it was still sane) pointing out that in practice most RPG PCs are people who regularly commit intolerably antisocial acts of violence, theft and mass destruction, often with far less justification than one might expect.  If one finds the act of being entertained by imagining that sort of thing offensive in itself, almost all RPGs would qualify.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: myleftnut;1086424I can see how certain devotees can find that offensive.

For what it's worth, my reaction isn't so much "How dare you!" as it is, "I wish people would put a little more effort into getting this right. I thought that was basic decent respect." (But then, no prophet is revered in his home town, as the Good Book says.)
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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nope

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1086477I had a Vampire GM who was a lapsed Orthodox Jew (now Wiccan) who had the characters being vampires in the service of the Israeli state do a kiddush ceremony with blood in place of wine, and a lesbian nightclub where vampire women were feeding on each-other's genitals which, being vampires, regrew rapidly. I found her description of the scene a bit... excessive.
Fucking whoa, man. Every single detail in here makes this story even more of a gem.:eek:

Brad

The only rpg I ever found offensive was Spawn of Fashan for being utterly inane and incomprehensible.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Brad;1086531The only rpg I ever found offensive was Spawn of Fashan for being utterly inane and incomprehensible.

I spent a long-ass time tracking down a copy of that fucking thing.  Legit, that one was my Grail for about fifteen years just because it was so damned hard to find.

I'm not totally convinced it isn't a joke.  I mean c'mon, Boosboodle?  And the example of play was funny as hell.

goblinslayer

IIRC, Palladium Fantasy listed homosexuality as a mental illness... and you could gain a mental illness from certain fear effects... so some monsters could turn you gay.  :)

myleftnut

Quote from: goblinslayer;1086637IIRC, Palladium Fantasy listed homosexuality as a mental illness... and you could gain a mental illness from certain fear effects... so some monsters could turn you gay.  :)
That was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Strangeness.

Opaopajr

I was offended that Storygames were trying to kill off and wear the skin of TTRPGs, but thankfully we've put that virus into containment in this forum. :p
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jhkim

Quote from: Opaopajr;1086733I was offended that Storygames were trying to kill off and wear the skin of TTRPGs, but thankfully we've put that virus into containment in this forum. :p
Ooh! Now I want to put together worn old D&D material into a skin to wear when I play story games!  Thanks for the idea!

Kael

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Omega

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Quote from: Razor 007;1086476I thought the latest group think said that all RPGs which include either Races, or Drow are evil now?

At any given point some loonatic is going to declare just about anything racist or offensive. And what got a pass today they may turn on tomorrow. You literally can not appease these sociopaths.

See  my post on the SJWs call you a racist thread for a breakdown of their madness.

Present a race faithfully but arent of that race? Appropriation! or Exclusionism! because you didnt also represent this OTHER race!
Present a fantasy race unrelated to anything real? But that race of plaid catgirls is really a representation of WHITE supremacy over the opressed blacks!
Present a race faithfully and are of that race? Well either you arent of that race... ENOUGH! or you are selling out!
Dont present any other races? Exclusionism! And you are likely a BIGOT!
Oh and if there arent more women represented than men then you are a Misogynist! And if the woman arent all represented as undefined squares then you are a RAPIST too!

And so on ad insanium because some fruitcake has declared at least one each of the above at some point.

myleftnut

Quote from: Omega;1086805At any given point some loonatic is going to declare just about anything racist or offensive. And what got a pass today they may turn on tomorrow. You literally can not appease these sociopaths.

See  my post on the SJWs call you a racist thread for a breakdown of their madness.

Present a race faithfully but arent of that race? Appropriation! or Exclusionism! because you didnt also represent this OTHER race!
Present a fantasy race unrelated to anything real? But that race of plaid catgirls is really a representation of WHITE supremacy over the opressed blacks!
Present a race faithfully and are of that race? Well either you arent of that race... ENOUGH! or you are selling out!
Dont present any other races? Exclusionism! And you are likely a BIGOT!
Oh and if there arent more women represented than men then you are a Misogynist! And if the woman arent all represented as undefined squares then you are a RAPIST too!

And so on ad insanium because some fruitcake has declared at least one each of the above at some point.

It's called white guilt.  It's pathetic. Only I'm allowed to be proud of my race didn't you know?

Opaopajr

Quote from: jhkim;1086743Ooh! Now I want to put together worn old D&D material into a skin to wear when I play story games!  Thanks for the idea!

You should do it! :D Nothing better that to see Storygamers plotz their pants when seeing an old AD&D cover pop out for tonight's game. You're welcome! :p
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman