Quote from: Xisiqomelir;1084724Is it actually going to be Steve Jackson Games as plaintiff?!

Fingers and toes crossed here!

I don't think there is a lawsuit. Just. Youtubuer created drama

Quote from: Lurtch;1084727I don't think there is a lawsuit. Just. Youtubuer created drama

Care to put money on that?

Well, I would welcome it if there was a lawsuit and it would mean we could end litigation-by-internet.

Quote from: JeremyR;1084499If you read your own forum more, you would have known this last night...

But I am skeptical much will come of this, given that it's people all over the country. They aren't going to fly in to Texas for a trial.

If they don't respond at all, they default.  They automatically lose.


As an outsider, I'm trying to piece together what exactly is going on with all this.

As far as I can tell, BJ Hensley was offered a cigarette at PaizoCon, someone noticed Bill Webb had stuck his hotel key to the pack of cigs, some SJW watching screeched WAPE WAPE WAPE, then... Jessica Price and others bullied BJ Hensley into joining their cries of victimhood?  And then Jessica Price, Christopher Helton, and Stacy Dellorfano conspired to go after FGG / Bill Webb's business relationships and contracts for the past 2 years?  With Christopher Helton being some Male Feminist SJW type who has been trying to police tabletop via standard "games journalist" tactics?  Outside of being the most creepy twitter profile / avatar I've seen in quite some time, who is Stacy Dellorfano?

I know Jessica Price was working at Paizo before she apparently was fired for sleeping on the job / attempting to defame Frank Mentzer.  Apparently she was pushing some false statement that Bill Webb was stalking BJ Hensley at the same con and had to be physically restrained by Paizo employees, whom they claim he assaulted and hurt (without evidence)?

This is a really weird adventure book for Dungeons and Dangerhairs, but I can fully understand why Bill Webb doesn't want to play anymore.  This should be interesting.

Quote from: KiTA;1084745If they don't respond at all, they default.  They automatically lose.

Not necessarily. If the original court lacked personal jurisdiction, you can collaterally attack the ruling when the other party comes to enforce it.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1084693From my understanding of it : It's improper when made by a third person who has no reason to be influencing the deal. In this case all the SJWs trying to have SJG drop a deal with FGG have no reason to be influencing the deal. From the D&C VS Mark Waid case I was under the impression the deal had to be broken for it to be actionable tho. RiekietaLaw gives a great explanation of what TI is in one of his vids.

A customer of the first or second party influencing them against the other on moral grounds might actually be considered proper. It's... not a simple process to determine improper (except in the case of things like blackmail or extortion, which if those were the case, it would be more covert, as they have technical requirements that aren't met, broadly, by shouting on Twitter).

Quote from: Brad;1084678That's it..?

Doesn't actually seem like it if this account is true.

If that's it, it probably wouldn't be found to be sexual harassment at all (in law). Sexual harassment has to be both offensive to the plaintiff (which takes into account all their past actions) and would be offensive to a reasonable person. It's a tougher standard than most people think.

Quote from: Tanin Wulf;1084760A customer of the first or second party influencing them against the other on moral grounds might actually be considered proper. It's... not a simple process to determine improper (except in the case of things like blackmail or extortion, which if those were the case, it would be more covert, as they have technical requirements that aren't met, broadly, by shouting on Twitter).

That assumes that they don'f Know the allegations are false or exaggerated.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1084764That assumes that they don'f Know the allegations are false or exaggerated.

False would be a clear red flag, but exaggerated? That's... harder to say what's an exaggeration and what's not for this purpose. You would really want to dive deep into the case law to see if that question has already been answered. I have no clue.

Quote from: jeff37923;1084736Care to put money on that?

Sure. $5.

Quote from: KiTA;1084745I know Jessica Price was working at Paizo before she apparently was fired for sleeping on the job / attempting to defame Frank Mentzer.

Is there some written evidence (in the internet) of this, from Paizo or some witnesses ?

I too had the impression that miss Price was shown the door from Paizo, but in a hush-hush way. But I could be totally mistaken about that. Hence my inquiry.

Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1084768Is there some written evidence (in the internet) of this, from Paizo or some witnesses ?

I too had the impression that miss Price was shown the door from Paizo, but in a hush-hush way. But I could be totally mistaken about that. Hence my inquiry.

Account from Price quoted here https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/a8i2yy/drama_jessica_price_reveals_why_paizo_fired_her/

We now know that a female Paizo staffer grabbed Webb and injured herself trying to haul him around. She then demanded medical bill money from Paizo. It sounds as if this woman may have criminally assaulted Webb. Paizo were understandably a bit annoyed which then escalated.

I feel sorry for Lisa Stevens. She just wanted to sell tabletop games.

Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1084768Is there some written evidence (in the internet) of this, from Paizo or some witnesses ?

I too had the impression that miss Price was shown the door from Paizo, but in a hush-hush way. But I could be totally mistaken about that. Hence my inquiry.

Well - she was fired from ArenaNet (Guild Wars) - but I assumed that she left Paizo to go there, as there is more $ in video games.

Quote from: S'mon;1084769I feel sorry for Lisa Stevens. She just wanted to sell tabletop games.

I don't.  Stevens refused to deal with the growing SJW problem at Paizo well before this incident happened.

Quote from: Lurtch;1084767Sure. $5.

Covered. $5 it is.