Steve Jackson just re-aquired the rights to The Fantasy Trip

philreed · August 15, 2018, 07:34:47 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1052957What happened with the OGRE kickstarter?

I cried for six years.

Seriously, though, what happened was constant delays that made us miss delivering the box by one year. Also, we continue to work through various stretch goals (the biggest, a new edition of Car Wars, is almost the last of those promises), meaning that a part of our resources continue to go to the project, over six years after it closed.

We learned a lot from that Ogre project, and we constantly apply those lessons to new Kickstarter projects.

Our first was our largest, but it was also the most painful. Some of the decisions made resulted in increased revenue, yes, but then fulfillling those decisions negatively affected the profitability of the project.

We won't Ogredo it again.

Narmer · August 15, 2018, 02:37:50 PM

Quote from: philreed;1052965We won't Ogredo it again.

*Groan*

philreed · August 15, 2018, 03:26:16 PM

Quote from: Narmer;1053023*Groan*

I know. At the office, we sometimes go Ogreboard with things.

Spinachcat · August 15, 2018, 04:52:24 PM

OGRE/GEV is a great game and a cool setting. Looking forward to more OGRE stuff in the future.

BTW, if anyone has not played OGRE, fix that. It's an amazing achievement in wargame design and tremendous fun (and battles are 30m-1hr).

amacris · August 15, 2018, 05:46:00 PM

As a player, I'm very excited that the Fantasy Trip is back! I had (and still have) the original Melee and Wizard and played through Death Trap 2 many times. As a game designer, I'm even more excited they are opening the game up with a license deal.

RPGPundit · August 21, 2018, 01:38:55 AM

Quote from: philreed;1052965I cried for six years.

Seriously, though, what happened was constant delays that made us miss delivering the box by one year. Also, we continue to work through various stretch goals (the biggest, a new edition of Car Wars, is almost the last of those promises), meaning that a part of our resources continue to go to the project, over six years after it closed.

We learned a lot from that Ogre project, and we constantly apply those lessons to new Kickstarter projects.

Our first was our largest, but it was also the most painful. Some of the decisions made resulted in increased revenue, yes, but then fulfillling those decisions negatively affected the profitability of the project.

We won't Ogredo it again.

I really appreciate the answer. And rather than making excuses, acknowledging the mistakes that were made, and explaining how you are learning from them, that's a good stance to take.

philreed · August 21, 2018, 04:15:14 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1053556I really appreciate the answer. And rather than making excuses, acknowledging the mistakes that were made, and explaining how you are learning from them, that's a good stance to take.

Thank you. We always try to be as transparent at the office, and we want to learn from mistakes. With Ogre, there were definitely mistakes.

We sometimes take heat for actions -- especially when it comes to international shipping -- but it is better to have some grumbling online than to make a promise that will cause serious delays or threaten the success of a project.

rawma · August 21, 2018, 11:12:05 PM

Quote from: philreed;1053575Thank you. We always try to be as transparent at the office, and we want to learn from mistakes. With Ogre, there were definitely mistakes.

We sometimes take heat for actions -- especially when it comes to international shipping -- but it is better to have some grumbling online than to make a promise that will cause serious delays or threaten the success of a project.

Yeah, that's it, I was, you know, just testing you when I asked for a mug with the Fantasy Trip logo. Thumbs up for turning me down!

philreed · August 22, 2018, 07:24:49 AM

Quote from: rawma;1053634Yeah, that's it, I was, you know, just testing you when I asked for a mug with the Fantasy Trip logo. Thumbs up for turning me down!

Evil! (I like it.)

Maybe what we need is a Kickstarter project _just_ for a mug.

On a serious note, we're moving into the final days; the project closes on Friday. If anyone wants a look at how big it has grown, here' the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sjgames/the-fantasy-trip-old-school-roleplaying

Brad · August 22, 2018, 09:42:36 AM

Quote from: philreed;1053650Evil! (I like it.)

Maybe what we need is a Kickstarter project _just_ for a mug.

On a serious note, we're moving into the final days; the project closes on Friday. If anyone wants a look at how big it has grown, here' the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sjgames/the-fantasy-trip-old-school-roleplaying

Probably not gonna hit the $300k mark (hoping it does!), so if not are there any plans to produce the pocket box sometime in the future?

Larsdangly · August 22, 2018, 12:30:18 PM

Who knows about that, but today I have eyes only for the new FB-share stretch goal: 14 hex dragon markers. The white whale of TFT combat...

Brad · August 22, 2018, 12:37:27 PM

Quote from: Larsdangly;1053685Who knows about that, but today I have eyes only for the new FB-share stretch goal: 14 hex dragon markers. The white whale of TFT combat...

Just shared it, up to 734...almost there.

Larsdangly · August 22, 2018, 01:31:23 PM

Quote from: Brad;1053686Just shared it, up to 734...almost there.

Awesome; that bad boy is going to be a lot of fun.

RPGPundit · August 25, 2018, 12:43:53 AM

Quote from: philreed;1053575Thank you. We always try to be as transparent at the office, and we want to learn from mistakes. With Ogre, there were definitely mistakes.

We sometimes take heat for actions -- especially when it comes to international shipping -- but it is better to have some grumbling online than to make a promise that will cause serious delays or threaten the success of a project.

Well, if you like feel free to send me a review copy when it publishes!

philreed · August 25, 2018, 05:28:16 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1053995Well, if you like feel free to send me a review copy when it publishes!

Please email me -- phil@sjgames.com -- and I can have you added to the list.