Quote from: Orphan81;1051584Look out gentleman, we have a bonafided badass over here!

He forgot the part where everyone slowly started to applaud him after he made his stand.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2018/08/03/gen-con-indianapolis-gaming-commentator-conservative-views-punched/896816002/

Shortly before 8 p.m. Thursday, hours after the video was posted, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department officers responded to a "delayed assault" by meeting Hambly at a Downtown hotel.

A representative of Gen Con said organizers of the gaming convention have received no requests for assistance by IMPD. "As always, we cooperate with local law enforcement," Gen Con said in a written statement provided to IndyStar. "For more than 50 years, Gen Con has provided a safe, welcoming environment for attendees."

The four-day convention opened Thursday.

Hambly has not responded to interview requests by IndyStar.

According to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department report, Hambly was on the patio at the Tin Roof, 36 S. Pennsylvania St., when a stranger asked, "Hey, are you Jeremy?"

"When Hambly responded yes, the suspect struck the victim in the head several times with a fist," according to the police report.

Hambly ran inside the bar. The suspect struck and broke one of the bar's windows then fled, the police report said.

Hambly suffered scrapes and bruises but no serious injuries.

In his video, Hambly says that a police officer took an initial statement.  

IMPD told IndyStar Thursday afternoon they were unfamiliar with Hambly making a report at that time.

Hambly also said in his video that the bar was uncooperative and would not provide surveillance footage of the attack. A Tin Roof spokesman told IndyStar that there are no surveillance cameras outside the bar. The spokesman declined to comment on the incident itself.

[Note: Hambly has since said the first officer failed to file the report, and he had to go back to the station another day and get them to file the report.]

I still have to reserve judgement on what really happened as again, all we have is Hambly's side of the story, no video, no response from the alleged attacker, and eyewitness accounts in a video on the own alleged victim's youtube channel. The alleged victim has a beef with WotC and the gaming community in general after he was banned for life from MtG for harrassment of cosplayers, something that I have seen documented. He's a super dick and I would not put faking this past him given his past actions.

So, until I see evidence that an attack actually happened in the way Hambly describes it, I'll wait to see how it plays out in the judicial system because if it did happen as Hambly describes it, there should be some form of prosecution, though jail time would be incredibly unlikely.

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Thank you for the clarification!  Here I 'd been thinking all these years that it was a cynical marketing ploy to sell our weird and inaccessible products to unsuspecting gamers.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1051527Sadly enough, those bare knees are probably serving someone's fetish.

Walking down the street is probably some people's fetish by virtue of Rule 34! At some point, you can't care whether someone might be excited due to what you're doing, and just start doing what you like:).
OK, not related to the accident, but it needed to be pointed out;).

Also, I'm mostly an European centrist, with some left leanings - which in the USA would put me both to the left of Hilary and to the right of Trump, somehow - and my stand on the supposed incident is:
There are words that can get you punched. "Don't insult people's mothers,sisters and girlfriends" is a rule we all learn as we grow up, for example;).
It's just wrong when someone includes political statements in those words.

That said, I'm not sure whether it actually happened, whether it happened the way the supposed victim is describing it, and what was the motivation of the supposed attacker. If it was an attack due to someone's views, it's wrong, period. But there's a reason why courts are asking for both sides' points of view.
So I'd extend the supposed attacker the same benefit of the doubt that everyone should be getting, and wait for judicial process to confirm that yes, the attack has happened, and why. I'm glad the supposed victim is pushing charges, because that way, we're going to know for sure, unlike in so many cases:D!

Quote from: sureshot;1051611Are you really surprised I'm not. You can damn well bet if it happened to them it would be the end of the world and they would never shut up about it. Predictably no mention of it over at the TBP. Then again the victim was white, CIS and privileged so who cares right.

I'm not terribly surprised, but the constant stream of reasoning, "Well, I don't like the guy, so it is OK that he was physically attacked" is bewildering. People keep saying that he harassed a cosplayer as justification, but all this guy did was make a YouTube video that was critical of the cosplayer's motives for cosplaying - there was no physical sexual harassment.

EDIT: The incident has been mentioned on TBP and resulted in a banning.

Quote from: jeff37923;1051623I'm not terribly surprised, but the constant stream of reasoning, "Well, I don't like the guy, so it is OK that he was physically attacked" is bewildering. People keep saying that he harassed a cosplayer as justification, but all this guy did was make a YouTube video that was critical of the cosplayer's motives for cosplaying - there was no physical sexual harassment.

EDIT: The incident has been mentioned on TBP and resulted in a banning.

Sounds like most of the forum aren't buying Hambly's story either.

Edited to add: AAAaaaaand the alleged victim has now pulled all videos about the alleged attack from all of his channels, so until I see something to the contrary, I consider this a hoax gone bad in order to try and get retribution against somebody he doesn't like.

Whatever happened to "Believe the victim"?

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051628Whatever happened to "Believe the victim"?

When the victim starts raising money on the alleged attack, with "gear" for sale and a Gofundme almost immediately, it's tough to believe them without some corroborating evidence.

Quote from: Xyxox;1051630When the victim starts raising money on the alleged attack, with "gear" for sale and a Gofundme almost immediately, it's tough to believe them without some corroborating evidence.

Do tell.

Quote from: Xyxox;1051630When the victim starts raising money on the alleged attack, with "gear" for sale and a Gofundme almost immediately, it's tough to believe them without some corroborating evidence.

When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like what Christine Sprankle did.....

Quote from: jeff37923;1051632When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like what Christine Sprankle did.....

She's a woman. It's different.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1051597Wazzup in this thread?

Politics?

*yawn*

You guys really need to get a game group. So does the loser assaulting people. Not, um, my group though thanks. Maybe that person could play a storygame like Amber or something.

I've got
. X-Wing Miniatures
. Starfinder society
. Pathfinder group
. 2nd edition "group" (solo player, my brother)
Is that enough for me to post in the thread?

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051633She's a woman. It's different.

Correction if she was a woman or trans-gendered or non-white it's different.

Quote from: jeff37923;1051632When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like what Christine Sprankle did.....

Whataboutism doesn't come into play here.

Edited to add that there was also corroborating evidence for Sprankle's allegations of harassment in the form of Hambly videos taken down by YouTube for violating their harassment policy.

Quote from: Xyxox;1051636Whataboutism doesn't come into play here.

"Whataboutism" is no good defense of double standards and tribalism.