Quote from: Silas1066;1051347The whole cosplay thing is a cynical attempt by women who are not gamers, or even into geek culture, to extract money and attention from desperate losers.

Probably too broad a brush there.  The professionals might be more cynical about it but it's not like every cosplay girl at a con is porn star April O'Neil showing up dressed as April O'Neil in order to charge money for pictures or drum up business.

By all accounts the "victim" cosplayer was taking advantage of people.  She raised enough money on Patreon for her cosplay to be able to go to Nursing school so she basically retired from cosplay to pursue a real job.  The Quartering pointed this out and she circled the wagons against him.  Because he had a couple of Pepe memes and photos and is highly critical of MtG tournament judges (he even outed a few as pedophiles) he was an easy target.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051294And all of that, Science has known for decades.  If you'll let go off the reservation for a bit, it's the reason women are in retail manning the cashes and the men in retail are in the back doing inventory, despite the scientific fact that women have better organizational skills than men, but men have better computational skill.  But because women are naturally more social, the big retail businesses like Macy's and now Walmart put them in the people jobs, because psychologically, both men and women find a woman serving them to be more soothing.  So they put the men where no one can see them, in the back with the boxes.

Everything he said, everything he laid out is well known facts that no one on the political left wants to hear, because it means that women cannot be men.  And I don't know about you, I like women being women!  If I wanted men, I'd be gay.  But I am not.

But because Feminism actually rules the West with an iron fist, with its Marxist/Post-Modernist bullshit that every one can do everything, there are no losers, no stupid people, all potential geniuses, we get extreme reactions like 'The Quartering' being assaulted by an idiot who thinks he has moral superiority.

Sorry Chief, but having an opinion is not a crime.  This was a nothing burger that the Cosplayer that got upset at his opinion decided to sic public opinion on him.  I'll be honest with you, I don't like The Quartering, I find him smarmy and self-righteous, but unlike most of the extreme leftist alt-lifestyle freaks, he actually provides PROOF, EVIDENCE, unless he states it as opinion.

And here's the facts to what happened.  A man assaulted another at the Geneva Convention, which in American Law is a crime.

Your second paragraph is full of what the fuck. The sentences don't even follow from one another.

Feminism doesn't rule the West. White Feminism is pretty popular right now though. The doting, switch-beaten wife of White Supremacy which is seeing just the most lovely comeback with the current POTUS. Seeing the faces of vile POS like Laura Southern et al. when they realize those "tradtional values" they're pushing for means they'd be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen cures migraines, I swear. When actual feminism rears its head, it usually in the form of "Coffee? No thanks, I'm good. There's a great place 'round the corner from the office, though!" comeback from a genuinely strong woman receiving all-too real sexist shit in the workplace.

The dude's legit when it comes to tracking down paedos in the CCG circuit. If he did that shit more, 'world would be a better place. But instead he rants impotently about whatever popular topic of discussion the far-right want to push

I get sick and tired of hearing "cultural marxist" -- it's so 2009. Bloody Jordan Peterson's made it vogue and put "post-modernist" on the map which is a subject that ninety fucking percent of the population isn't even educated on enough to tackle. That and "alt-right": this covert word sabotage has got to stop. "Globalist" is another actually and that one is way sinister.

Having an opinion itself isn't a crime but if that opinion is a shitty one pushing racist bile (which collectively lends fire to violent actions against Black people etc...), yeah that is a fucking crime to spew it publically (and thank God in the UK you can be done for it!)

Quote from: S'mon;1051303OK: if you think saying that in a private memo is something a company SHOULD fire someone for, then...

Edit: It wasn't a company 'policy' BTW, it was an arbitrary decision by a Google bigwig whose feelings were apparently hurt.

Seems legit. You work for a private company. They can (and will) do whatever the fuck they want and they sure as shit are entitled to when some asshat does something that by proxy of their employment could in some conceivable way connect back to the brand. Same shit happened with Jessica Price recently. People need to really, really stop saying stupid shit and learn what world they live in.

Quote from: soltakss;1051304Back to the OP ...

In my opinion, it is never OK to assault someone, except in self defence.

There are a lot of people whose views I don't agree with, but that does not give me any right to assault them.

I am, of course, a wishy-washy liberal in the UK, which probably makes me quite lefty on the US scale, but I am pretty much against violence in real life, so am appalled that such a thing would happen at a games convention. You would think that games cons nowadays would have a policy regarding harrassment and assault. I take people's word that the alleged perpetrator has been defended, or not punished, by the games con organisors. Although "innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of the western world, it looks as though the alleged perpertrator should have at least been banned from the con. Trial by Internet seems to have already started, though, which is a shame.

If you've got shit to lose, sure. But there's far more people with nothing to lose (or what they'd consider a loss) out there who'll correct you if you step wrong. It's a pretty pure way of dealing with shitheads, usually those who've been given multiple warnings to back off. Always satisfying to see justice done on a LiveLeak errm... leak.

I'm a centrist politically and from the UK (which actually still puts me in centrist territory in the US -- centrism is weird like that). You know, the kinda guy who's totally cool with private gun ownership, so long as gun buyers/sellers are fingerprinted, on a national database, have to do both gun safety and basic shooting courses and are subject to annual checks. Oh, and not allowing randos to buy stupid shit like phosphorous rounds or JHP or automatics (no problem with certified and regulated ranges allowing you to shoot off a surplus M60). Just sane practices and protocols, yo.

Why go through the courts when public shamming is ten times as effective and can be done overnight?

Quote from: jeff37923;1051307I'm a Heinlein worshipping Libertarian from the USA which probably registers as Uber-Conservative and I agree with you.

The more I read about the people involved and their pasts, neither is truly of sterling character. However using violence to demonstrate that you don't like someone's opinion is just plain wrong. Disagreement doesn't mean that you can start punching a person, that is still considered assault.

Talk shit, get hit. And now manz is well shook. Never forget you can be touched and you'll be more considered in how you express opinions.

That said, the guy attacking him should have ice shards blown in his eyes for sucker-punching the dude. That's cowardly as shit to attack someone off the jump like that.

Quote from: The_Shadow;1051320The asymmetry of the left debating whether someone's views are bad enough to merit being suckerpunched, while I never hear the right (even the "out there" figures like Cernovich or Milo) advocating such lawlessness towards their opponents, is rather glaring.

Err, dude, you have hundreds of white men marching around with torches chanting "blood and soil" just last year alone. Not to mention the fact that until Trump came into office, White Supremacist groups and their affiliates were considered "domestic terrorist organizations" because, you know, McVeigh and the Unibomber and Marathon et al.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1051323Your ranting is both childish and impotent. Sit down, hush and open your mind not your mouth. You just might learn something. Such as how wrong you are.

Nah, he's not wrong. Damore's your typical ivory-tower SV programmer who's unaware of how he's perceived by others, has lived his life in a nice bubble and genuinely believes what he said on the topic was original and compelling. Liana K had him on for a talk about the shitstorm and he just sounded like a shithead sleeved in the skin of an ostensibly competent coder/techhead.

Quote from: Silas1066;1051331the funny thing is, Jeremy's youtube channel "The Quartering" has 118,000 subscribers, and a lot of gamers know who he is

The dude that attacked him probably hasn't seen 118 unique customers in the whole history of his business being opened. In addition to that, the guy can't put together a simple RPG in 5 years to fulfill a kickstarter.

Dude is a tatted loser who can't find legitimate employment. Meanwhile, Jeremy will probably get more subscribers due to the incident.

As is true of a lot of these Antifa/SJW types, they are people who are either unemployed, living with their parents, under-qualified and under-trained, and are such slobs that they can't even get a job interview. So instead, they start their own unprofitable hobby-businesses, and spend the day writing blogs or fantasizing about being a "feminist consultant", or something equivalent.

The only thing that makes these people somewhat dangerous is the fact that they can't be fired from jobs they don't have, and many already have criminal records. They are like violent teenagers.

You're describing neo-nazis to a tee. 'Cept switch out consultant to stream-of-consciousness essays on the "racial ubermensch". I already knew that the Horseshoe Theory had weight to it but these last few years have really put it in perspective.

I know, right. All this has served to do is get more that shithead more exposure to the type of bitter and self-entitled internet warriors he represents.

It would be thoroughly entertaining to take these individuals and throw them in a dank, dirty pit and let em' sort it down there. I'm sure one could make MORE than few bob on that with a pay-per-view stream.

Quote from: Orphan81;1051342He was banned for addressing the cosplay thot problem in the hobby. The hobby has a cosplay thot problem.

You soundin' real incel-ly, brah.

Quote from: Brad;1051348You make it sound like that's a bad thing. Marketing usually equals attractive women in revealing clothing; it's not their fault.

Seems legit.

Quote from: Silas1066;1051347The whole cosplay thing is a cynical attempt by women who are not gamers, or even into geek culture, to extract money and attention from desperate losers.

"Cosplay Deviants"? Hell, I went over to their booth at Gencon years ago and chatted with a couple of the girls. I asked one "who is your favorite doctor"? And she replied "you mean, like my doctor?" I asked another one about her costume, and she couldn't even tell me the character she was supposed to be. Some dude running the show dressed her up.

And these chicks who show up to the comic cons? Many are professional models hired by the organizers, or amateurs looking for the next gig. They don't like gamers, don't like geek culture, and don't even watch scifi on tv.

I go to conventions to game, not to see strippers. Jeremy was right: cosplay is lingerie (most of the time)

Thank the lord for the term "incel". Really applies to all this mess you've written right here with just a dash of Alex Jones for that modern take on 90's misogyny. Classics such as "I don't get real-woman Sailor Moon boobs, therefore all women are succubi" and "I am the shield against the dark forces of sex appeal cum capitalism... and I totally meant-but-not-meant that as a innuendo but I'm totally not sexually repressed, oooh!"

Quote from: PrometheanVigil;1051360You soundin' real incel-ly, brah.



Seems legit.



Thank the lord for the term "incel". Really applies to all this mess you've written right here with just a dash of Alex Jones for that modern take on 90's misogyny. Classics such as "I don't get real-woman Sailor Moon boobs, therefore all women are succubi" and "I am the shield against the dark forces of sex appeal cum capitalism... and I totally meant-but-not-meant that as a innuendo but I'm totally not sexually repressed, oooh!"

Why the focus on sexual insults, brah? Got a bit of that repression going on yourself?

@PrometheanVigil - That is the Voltron of Strawmen right there. 10/10 in your masterful destruction of it. You so good. So good.

Quote from: PrometheanVigil;1051360Seems legit.

I work for a marketing firm...you want to dispute my simple factual claim?

Quote from: PrometheanVigil;1051360Talk shit, get hit. And now manz is well shook. Never forget you can be touched and you'll be more considered in how you express opinions.

Brave words that I think you would take back when it is you getting touched for having an opinion someone disagrees with.

Quote from: Diffan;1051275Actually he was banned for continued harassment of a cosplayer. Banned in every single capacity from all Magic: the Gathering events. The guy is a piece of shit.

That's awful that he would harrass a cosplayer. What did he do? Stalk her? Get handys at events? Send her sexually exicit emails or messages?

Quote from: Lurtch;1051385That's awful that he would harrass a cosplayer. What did he do? Stalk her? Get handys at events? Send her sexually exicit emails or messages?

He made a video questioning why a cosplayer who knew next to nothing about MtG was considered the star of MtG cosplay.

Quote from: The_Shadow;1051320The asymmetry of the left debating whether someone's views are bad enough to merit being suckerpunched, while I never hear the right (even the "out there" figures like Cernovich or Milo) advocating such lawlessness towards their opponents, is rather glaring.

It took barely any time at all searching for commentary on this incident yesterday to find t lot right wing people advocating that the correct response to this would have been to carry a concealed weapon and blow the attacker away - others throwing in racist and anti-semitic comments - even those this incident has nothing to do with race - and one commentator stating that the correct response to this is that "all liberals need to be put in the ground".

Quote from: jeff37923;1051386He made a video questioning why a cosplayer who knew next to nothing about MtG was considered the star of MtG cosplay.

That can't be right. Diffan said he was harassing a cosplayer. He must have been doing more than that.....

Quote from: TJS;1051387It took barely any time at all searching for commentary on this incident yesterday to find t lot right wing people advocating that the correct response to this would have been to carry a concealed weapon and blow the attacker away - others throwing in racist and anti-semitic comments - even those this incident has nothing to do with race - and one commentator stating that the correct response to this is that "all liberals need to be put in the ground".

Citation needed.

Quote from: Lurtch;1051389Citation needed.

Read any conservative website these days.  Moderation is such shit that those sorts of things are depressingly commonplace.  Right wing has gotten pretty snowflake/violent too.  Proud Boy Ruffio was clearly looking to take some commie scalps but at least had the decency to wait for them to throw the first punch.  But he was clearly there to fight.

Just catching up

So, it sounds like a useless wastrel attacked a douchy wannabe blogger, who didn't get hurt but lost several buttons from his $17 Target button down. Sounds like the end of days!!!!


And, naturally, the regulars on this board found a way to turn this into a lecture about some bullshit they read in a 19th century craniometry study about women's 'natural traits'.

Quote from: Lurtch;1051388That can't be right. Diffan said he was harassing a cosplayer. He must have been doing more than that.....

From what I have researched, that was it. No inappropriate touching, no doxxing, no stalking, no calling out at MtG tournaments, he just made a Youtube video. The cosplayer claimed that she was stricken, asked that her fans take this guy to task (while also asking for Patreon support), he was a MtG judge and got told to fuck off by WotC over this, he lost a few thousand dollars worth of online MtG loot and cards when WotC pulled the plug, has been harassed by MtG fanbois ever since, and has now been physically attacked for it. Oh, and the cosplayer? She got out of the MtG scene and the cosplaying scene so she could go to medical school to get her CNA, paid for by her Patreon.

Quote from: Lurtch;1051389Citation needed.

What is this an academic paper?  I definitely didn't save any links.  Find it yourself.  Assume I'm lying.  Assume I'm telling the truth.

As you choose.