Quote from: soltakss;1051304You would think that games cons nowadays would have a policy regarding harrassment and assault.

They do, of course... but those policies are not intended to, and do not, prevent actual harassment and assault. They, and the demands for them, are virtue-signalling exercises which may even be used to enable actual harassment.

Quote from: soltakss;1051304Back to the OP ...

In my opinion, it is never OK to assault someone, except in self defence.

There are a lot of people whose views I don't agree with, but that does not give me any right to assault them.

I am, of course, a wishy-washy liberal in the UK, which probably makes me quite lefty on the US scale, but I am pretty much against violence in real life, so am appalled that such a thing would happen at a games convention. You would think that games cons nowadays would have a policy regarding harrassment and assault. I take people's word that the alleged perpetrator has been defended, or not punished, by the games con organisors. Although "innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of the western world, it looks as though the alleged perpertrator should have at least been banned from the con. Trial by Internet seems to have already started, though, which is a shame.

I'm a Heinlein worshipping Libertarian from the USA which probably registers as Uber-Conservative and I agree with you.

The more I read about the people involved and their pasts, neither is truly of sterling character. However using violence to demonstrate that you don't like someone's opinion is just plain wrong. Disagreement doesn't mean that you can start punching a person, that is still considered assault.

Quote from: jeff37923;1051307Disagreement doesn't mean that you can start punching a person, that is still considered assault.

Battery, assuming at least one punch lands (and, in this case, it did).

So is this dude in jail yet? Or at least charged?

The most charitable interpretation I can think of for Gencon's non-response (disclaimer: not a lawyer) is that since this didn't take place in the convention area it's officially Not Gencon's Problem. They might be worried that if they make an official statement of some kind this could be taken to imply that they assume some sort of responsibility for the incident. Given the likelihood of law suits, I can see how they would very much want to avoid that.

Still, it's hard to believe that if the backgrounds of the attacker and victim were different, Gencon's reaction wouldn't have been different as well.

The asymmetry of the left debating whether someone's views are bad enough to merit being suckerpunched, while I never hear the right (even the "out there" figures like Cernovich or Milo) advocating such lawlessness towards their opponents, is rather glaring.

Its refreshing to see the number of people who are admonishing his actions in tweets and message boards.

Quote from: Diffan;1051293You mean the guy who said women have a biologically stronger interest in people rather than things, and tending to be more social, artistic, and prone to neuroticism?

Fuck outta here....

Your ranting is both childish and impotent. Sit down, hush and open your mind not your mouth. You just might learn something. Such as how wrong you are.

the funny thing is, Jeremy's youtube channel "The Quartering" has 118,000 subscribers, and a lot of gamers know who he is

The dude that attacked him probably hasn't seen 118 unique customers in the whole history of his business being opened. In addition to that, the guy can't put together a simple RPG in 5 years to fulfill a kickstarter.

Dude is a tatted loser who can't find legitimate employment. Meanwhile, Jeremy will probably get more subscribers due to the incident.

As is true of a lot of these Antifa/SJW types, they are people who are either unemployed, living with their parents, under-qualified and under-trained, and are such slobs that they can't even get a job interview. So instead, they start their own unprofitable hobby-businesses, and spend the day writing blogs or fantasizing about being a "feminist consultant", or something equivalent.

The only thing that makes these people somewhat dangerous is the fact that they can't be fired from jobs they don't have, and many already have criminal records. They are like violent teenagers.

Oddly enough, I am acquainted, barely acquainted with the victim and the attacker.
I have watched several videos by The Quartering and never saw any calls for violence or anything very radical. He is too involved in Magic the Gathering and videogames for me to watch him regularly but he seems like an ok guy.
I used to go to the alleged assailant's game store and café in New Haven and would probably still be going there if I were still in New Haven. I ran games there, played in other peoples' games and occasionally talked to him about scheduling and offered encouragement because I liked having his establishment in town. I liked the guy.
When I first heard that he was the accused, I was hoping he wasn't the one who did it but I wanted whomever did it to do prison time.
The hope that he wasn't the one who did it is fading but who knows. The other opinion stands.

Quote from: Diffan;1051285Yeah a company perma-banned a guy for a trivial online disagreement.....

And I don't think he should've been attacked. That's the problem with kicking a piece of shit, it ends up still on your shoe. Ignore it and move on.

He was banned for addressing the cosplay thot problem in the hobby. The hobby has a cosplay thot problem.

Quote from: Diffan;1051293You mean the guy who said women have a biologically stronger interest in people rather than things, and tending to be more social, artistic, and prone to neuroticism?

Fuck outta here....

And backed it up with sources. Women and men are different in many ways, they are similar in many ways as well. We should aknowledge those differences as well as allowing for individuals to make their own choices.

Quote from: Orphan81;1051342He was banned for addressing the cosplay thot problem in the hobby. The hobby has a cosplay thot problem.

Yep. Even if one disagrees with him, he didn't harass the cosplayer in question. He voiced wrongthink and that triggered the sexist "Protect the wammen!" reflex in the MTG community.

Quote from: Orphan81;1051342He was banned for addressing the cosplay thot problem in the hobby. The hobby has a cosplay thot problem.

The whole cosplay thing is a cynical attempt by women who are not gamers, or even into geek culture, to extract money and attention from desperate losers.

"Cosplay Deviants"? Hell, I went over to their booth at Gencon years ago and chatted with a couple of the girls. I asked one "who is your favorite doctor"? And she replied "you mean, like my doctor?" I asked another one about her costume, and she couldn't even tell me the character she was supposed to be. Some dude running the show dressed her up.

And these chicks who show up to the comic cons? Many are professional models hired by the organizers, or amateurs looking for the next gig. They don't like gamers, don't like geek culture, and don't even watch scifi on tv.

I go to conventions to game, not to see strippers. Jeremy was right: cosplay is lingerie (most of the time)

Quote from: Silas1066;1051347The whole cosplay thing is a cynical attempt by women who are not gamers, or even into geek culture, to extract money and attention from desperate losers.

"Cosplay Deviants"? Hell, I went over to their booth at Gencon years ago and chatted with a couple of the girls. I asked one "who is your favorite doctor"? And she replied "you mean, like my doctor?" I asked another one about her costume, and she couldn't even tell me the character she was supposed to be. Some dude running the show dressed her up.

And these chicks who show up to the comic cons? Many are professional models hired by the organizers, or amateurs looking for the next gig. They don't like gamers, don't like geek culture, and don't even watch scifi on tv.

I go to conventions to game, not to see strippers. Jeremy was right: cosplay is lingerie (most of the time)

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. Marketing usually equals attractive women in revealing clothing; it's not their fault.