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Mordenkainen's Tome Of Foes

Started by Darrin Kelley, June 03, 2018, 06:46:48 PM

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Christopher Brady

#60
June 15, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: HorusArisen;1044186As I recall if the Leannan Sidhe manages to make to make her target fall in love with her she drains him as he goes through a mad rush of creativity. If she fails she's forced into his service...something like that anyway.

Yes, I remember that too!  I never added that to my paper, cuz my dad thought it was inappropriate. He was actually right.
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Llew ap Hywel

#61
June 16, 2018, 07:23:43 AM Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 12:42:05 PM by HorusArisen
Leanan Sidhe is an Irish myth. She's a sad soul doomed to never know lasting love.

As I recall, badly, the earliest mention of an Incubi is Mesopotamia but I can't recall where I've read that.
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Séadna

#62
June 16, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
Leannán is an old word for a lover, with romantic more than sexual connotations (we'd rarely use it now), the closest English word is probably "sweetheart".

A Leannán Sidhe is then simply a lover who is a Sidhe. However a Sidhe is anything that is not a human, an angel or a demon in hell. So can include the dead, other underground races, wind spirits, demons on earth or virtually anything.

So really Leannán Sidhe can refer to quite a broad range of things.

RPGPundit

#63
June 19, 2018, 04:53:15 AM
There's a lot of debate relating to that line in Genesis, but even if we assume those were spiritual beings of some kind, the fact that they reproduced doesn't necessarily mean they have a gender in the same sense as humans.
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#64
June 19, 2018, 08:12:05 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1044646There's a lot of debate relating to that line in Genesis, but even if we assume those were spiritual beings of some kind, the fact that they reproduced doesn't necessarily mean they have a gender in the same sense as humans.

Indeed.

Chalk me up as in favor of the 'genderless' devils of 5E. I think it sounds fun.
Though, as others have suggested, I might instead apply it to demons, and leave the devils as they are presented in other editions.

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tenbones

#65
June 19, 2018, 01:29:38 PM
So is it time to genocide Tieflings and Cambions?

crkrueger

#66
June 19, 2018, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: tenbones;1044736So is it time to genocide Tieflings and Cambions?

Yep, and all the Aasimar and Elemental-kin also.  Time to de-freak the fucking Freak Show.  Toss Dragonborn on the Pyre too.
Cambions from MM2 can stay as monsters though.
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Mike the Mage

#67
June 19, 2018, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;1044748Yep, and all the Aasimar and Elemental-kin also.  Time to de-freak the fucking Freak Show.  Toss Dragonborn on the Pyre too.
Cambions from MM2 can stay as monsters though.

Oh sign me up. Just let's keep the Alu-Demon from MM2 too. Strictly as a monster though.
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Brad

#68
June 19, 2018, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;1044748Yep, and all the Aasimar and Elemental-kin also.  Time to de-freak the fucking Freak Show.  Toss Dragonborn on the Pyre too.
Cambions from MM2 can stay as monsters though.

I'm onboard for this. My biggest gripe with 5th edition is the inclusion of all sorts of stupid races in the core rules. It just opens the door for "special snowflake" gaming that I have no stomach for anymore.
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Mike the Mage

#69
June 19, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
I had hope that 5th edition would have gotten rid of all that shit.
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Ewan

#70
June 19, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: tenbones;1044736So is it time to genocide Tieflings and Cambions?

Yes.
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Christopher Brady

#71
June 19, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
Why not kill all the races other than humans, like Gygax originally wanted?  Keep it pure!
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Ewan

#72
June 19, 2018, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: tenbones;1044736So is it time to genocide Tieflings and Cambions?

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Purge!

Mike the Mage

#73
June 19, 2018, 02:35:56 PM
You can have nonhuman races. Just not snowflake freak mary sue shit super races.

All that must die!
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Christopher Brady

#74
June 19, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
Quote from: Mike the Mage;1044773You can have nonhuman races. Just not snowflake freak mary sue shit super races.

All that must die!

So Elves must die.  Dwarves must die.  Definitely Gnomes...  But Halflings aren't that special snowflake, in fact they don't have much anymore...  But why keep them when everything else must die?  SKORCHED EARF!
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