Wizards of the Coast Print Quality

Cave Bear · May 28, 2018, 03:22:32 AM

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Holy shit, this is a disaster. Any experiences with this, guys?

Mike the Mage · May 28, 2018, 03:27:24 AM

I am not regretting investing my hobby money elsewhere right now.

Spinachcat · May 28, 2018, 04:44:47 AM

So you CAN judge a book by its cover!

Mike the Mage · May 28, 2018, 04:53:57 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat;1040913So you CAN judge a book by its cover!

LOL.

Chainsaw · May 28, 2018, 07:48:21 AM

Same thing happened with a few of the WotC 4E books I used to own. Print quality's cheap, shocker.

Mike the Mage · May 28, 2018, 07:55:58 AM

Whereas my old PHB 1st edition is still looking great.:cool: Not so much my Unearthed Arcana 1st edition though...

Chainsaw · May 28, 2018, 07:59:34 AM

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040934Whereas my old PHB 1st edition is still looking great.:cool: Not so much my Unearthed Arcana 1st edition though...

Agreed, UA print quality was pure and utter crap.

Omega · May 28, 2018, 09:12:30 AM

It varies and you are going to see goofs in any print run. First printing of the PHB for example had some binding issues and mine arrived with all the pages warped which suggests they were rushed off the assembly without proper time to dry or cure. Binding on mine is fine though and pressing the books under weights and a fan for a few days flattened them out.

Stuff like this can and will slip past QC. Sometimes simply because it is not obvious at a glance something was wrong. Or because it is THAT ONE BOOK that wasnt checked in a batch or just didnt register. My first printing 5e PHB was printed in Delemont In Switzerland through Hasbro SA.

Mike the Mage · May 28, 2018, 09:17:51 AM

Still, 5th edition is pretty pricey.

Maybe a little more investement in QC and a little less time and money spent on PR would improve matters.

NYTFLYR · May 28, 2018, 09:31:37 AM

Used to work in a print shop, looks like the signatures slipped before going to the cutter, it happens... and being automated, it wouldn't have been seen

Larsdangly · May 28, 2018, 09:51:06 AM

I love the fact that my 1E PHB (and MM) are still like 80 pound Gutenberg bibles after fully 40 years of regular use.

Abraxus · May 28, 2018, 09:53:27 AM

To be fair it's not just Wotc. Too many rpg companies take the cheap route when printing their rpgs imo. THe first printing of the Pathfinder core and Shadowrun 5 had issues as well.

Ashakyre · May 28, 2018, 10:12:38 AM

All the 5th ed. books I purchased had similar issues. They look like someone spilled water on them. At first I thought it was the store, but the marks were too similar.

RunningLaser · May 28, 2018, 10:22:42 AM

I'm sure the last thing on Hasbro's mind is having 5th edition books last 30 years:) These hardcovers are made at a price point. They aren't sewn, just glued bindings like a softcover.

I had issues with one of my 5th ed books- can't recall which one, but the binding split open within a day of use. Emailed WoTC and they sent a label to send it back and sent out a new one.

RunningLaser · May 28, 2018, 10:24:01 AM

Quote from: Ashakyre;1040959All the 5th ed. books I purchased had similar issues. They look like someone spilled water on them. At first I thought it was the store, but the marks were too similar.

I think that has something to do with the pages absorbing moisture out of the air. Usually goes away when things dry out. Wonder if it's also telling of the paper quality?