Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1040705Which is why suddenly 'making' Dumbledore gay and Lando pansexual is so irritating and ultimately hollow.

In the case of Dumbledore, Rowling can do what she wants with her own intellectual property, and if people who don't like it think they are making some sort of point by burning books they already paid for, well that's their prerogative. As for Lando well, I probably won't watch Solo so it's as if it doesn't even exist for me.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1039649My guess, and it is only a guess, is it might seem more wide-spread in the US because we don't have the same Government mechanisms in place to do for the people. You're not going to be arrested and prosecuted for posting a rap lyric in the US as a "hate crime". We don't have a Canadian-like Human Rights Commission to use the force of law to force proper gender pronouns.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1040705Yet.

But if you don't think those things are coming, you're nuts.

Quote from: NYTFLYR;1040811It's not the Alt-right I'm scared of, it's the Ctrl-left

It's not like one has to choose one or the other. I support free speech and also oppose the alt-right. I'm not scared of either - I'm scared of the unthinking wishy-washy mainstream who let these fringe groups guide their opinion.

Quote from: NYTFLYR;1040811It's not the Alt-right I'm scared of, it's the Ctrl-left

Absolute power corrupts absolutely  - at least for those who fear losing that power and will maintain their hegemony by any means necessary.

There are people who get called alt-right I'm pretty sympathetic with; there are others who are scumbags worse than most of the ctrl-left. But apart from helping Trump get elected, they are not very important. They certainly don't have power. Whereas the control Left have been incredibly successful in establishing full spectrum dominance. The more or less free society I was born in no longer exists; and the rest of the West is hardly better off.

Quote from: Krimson;1040815In the case of Dumbledore, Rowling can do what she wants with her own intellectual property, and if people who don't like it think they are making some sort of point by burning books they already paid for, well that's their prerogative. As for Lando well, I probably won't watch Solo so it's as if it doesn't even exist for me.

But Rowling hasn't actually DONE anything - apart from virtue signal. No one disputes her legal  right to write hot Harry (16+) and Dumbledore action - but she has never written anything where Dumbledore shows any actual sign of gayness. Not to mention  Hermione's Dolezal-ish trans-racialism...

Quote from: jhkim;1040818It's not like one has to choose one or the other. I support free speech and also oppose the alt-right. I'm not scared of either - I'm scared of the unthinking wishy-washy mainstream who let these fringe groups guide their opinion.

And yet, on this very forum, you are crusading for one of the fringes.

Quote from: Krimson;1040815In the case of Dumbledore, Rowling can do what she wants with her own intellectual property, and if people who don't like it think they are making some sort of point by burning books they already paid for, well that's their prerogative. As for Lando well, I probably won't watch Solo so it's as if it doesn't even exist for me.

Like S'mon says above, it's not like she wrote Dumbledore as being gay. She just declared it, likely as simple virtue signal, after the stories were done. It's about as brave as suddenly becoming a supporter of gay marriage when there is no political blow-back for doing so. She waited until all the checks were cashed and then decided to turn on here virtual bat-signal.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1040822And yet, on this very forum, you are crusading for one of the fringes.

Well I think Kim crusades for the centre-left.

Quote from: S'mon;1040826Well I think Kim crusades for the centre-left.

Bad guys usually don't see themselves as such.

Quote from: NYTFLYR;1040811It's not the Alt-right I'm scared of, it's the Ctrl-left

I'm afraid of ANYONE who espouses and extreme.  It never ends well.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1040829Bad guys usually don't see themselves as such.

I like to see myself as a bad guy, but sometimes I don't live up to my dreams.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1040751College may be kindergarten, but work and the rest of the world are not. They will continue their delusions online (becoming even louder and more strident), but I expect Millennials will start chasing their antidepressants with a lot of booze as real life pushes back hard.

Oh...and the next generation isn't going to be kind to them.

Boozing away troubles isn't new for any generation, but the Millennials unfortunately are drowning in chemicals and isolated from fellow people by their devices. It's one thing to drink away the day with friends at the bar, or even alone with the TV, but neural altering drugs + booze + loneliness? That's bad news.

My girlfriend asked me recently what the SJW end game is going to be. I replied, "suicide epidemic in the late 2020s".

Actually, workplaces are beginning to capitulate to SJW millennials, not the other way around.  Per The Washington Examiner:

QuoteConfronted with reports of safe spaces and disinvitations, many an exasperated parent has wondered, "What's going to happen to these kids when they have to work in the real world?"

Increasingly, it seems as though the real world is conforming to the standards of the campus. If MTV were to brand the drama poised to grip American workplaces with a familiar tagline, it may sound something like, "Find out what happens when people stop being respectful and start getting woke."

Quote from: S'mon;10407831. Mearls - hmm, I think this is the point where I avoid buying more WoTC products.

If you enjoy a WotC product, buy it used. No reason to be deprived of something you enjoy.

However...there's a gadorkzillion 5e books being produced by 3PP. I am sure many are better than WotC's offerings.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1040822And yet, on this very forum, you are crusading for one of the fringes.

jhkim? Seriously? Worst.Crusader.Ever.

His vociferous defense of free speech makes him ineligible for SJW membership.

Don't confuse "center left" for "radical left". There are miles between those positions, even though they might vote similarly in our two party system.

Makes me wonder if the pendulum might swing further until the "center left" become the "progressive right"! Without changing a single opinion!

And considering how viciously free speech is under attack, we need ALL the allies we can.

We don't need to agree on anything, except the right to verbally disagree.

Quote from: Apparition;1040864Actually, workplaces are beginning to capitulate to SJW millennials, not the other way around.  Per The Washington Examiner:

Those companies are dead meat.  

And this great news for companies who don't capitulate. Makes it so much easier to recruit talent and weed out snowflakes.

It is especially good news for startups who want to recruit veteran talent.

"Those damn punks with their mohawks and loud music are destroying America!"

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1040873"Those damn punks with their mohawks and loud music are destroying America!"

Do you really see no difference?

And...it's funny because "those damn punks" were often called Neo Nazis back then!

Quote from: Spinachcat;1040874And...it's funny because "those damn punks" were often called Neo Nazis back then!

Well, IME punks were by and large Anarchists (Crass, Sex Pistols) and the subculture of NeoNazi Punks were viewed as enemies.

"In a real fourth Reich you'll be the first to go." - Nazi Punks Fuck Off, Dead Kennedys.

In fact Neo Nazis have a habit of piggybacking off subcultures: a phenomenon similar to Nazi Punks were Nazi Skins who, with the help of the salacious MSM managed to co-opt the skinhead movement which was born out  of working class Oi!, ska, reggae, 2 Tone and ska, which was originally a melding of West Indies sounds with rock/punk music.

Two good movies that I think depict these eras well are SLC Punk! and This is England.

WARNING: TRAILERS CONTAIN STRONG LANGUAGE AND RACIAL SLURS. NSFW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DILdeHgWF-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0jkv2bRFgQ

Anyway, I will not get any further off-topic .