Quote from: JimLotFP;1040549I'm one of the people he thinks is "alt-right" (he's called me a cryptofascist), for as far as I can tell saying that assaulting people on the street for political beliefs is a bad thing to do, and that my criticism of Jordan Peterson doesn't reach the levels of total condemnation.

If he said that, he's a bad sort.

It's sad to see people get all twisted up by politics these days.

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040547I see no sign of "peak OSR".

I agree (again). We only recently got a decent OSR sci-fi version. And there is a real dearth of old-style modules for sci-fi. By "old-style", I mean like the original B series, that give fully fleshed adventures, without (as Mike and I have discussed elsewhere) reams of "background novelization". Most sci-fi modules follow the Classic Traveller model, and leave (too*) much up to the GM.

DwD Studios did a nice modern-spy OSR White Lies, also recently.

Lots and lots of room left there.

*YMMV

Quote from: Tod13;1040591I agree (again). We only recently got a decent OSR sci-fi version. And there is a real dearth of old-style modules for sci-fi. By "old-style", I mean like the original B series, that give fully fleshed adventures, without (as Mike and I have discussed elsewhere) reams of "background novelization". Most sci-fi modules follow the Classic Traveller model, and leave (too*) much up to the GM.

Spot on! I am sure the old Traveller Double Adventure could get an SWN treatment. Probably a sacriledge to our good Traveller playing friends, but I would run Annica Nova or Across the Bright Face/Mission on Mithril "clone" with SWN or White Star in a heartbeat with my group that regularly plays Beyond the Wall.

Quote from: Tod13;1040591I agree (again). We only recently got a decent OSR sci-fi version. And there is a real dearth of old-style modules for sci-fi. By "old-style", I mean like the original B series, that give fully fleshed adventures, without (as Mike and I have discussed elsewhere) reams of "background novelization". Most sci-fi modules follow the Classic Traveller model, and leave (too*) much up to the GM.

This is extremely true! I've been looking for stuff to run with White Star and there is very little I can find other than some old Traveller adventures in White Dwarf.

Quote from: S'mon;1040601This is extremely true! I've been looking for stuff to run with White Star and there is very little I can find other than some old Traveller adventures in White Dwarf.

I've just taken to re-skinning BFRPG or older D&D modules into a steampunk-science-fantasy setting. I use the Traveller species and the "spaceship" became an "ethership". I'll usually use one of the mini-adventures from Creation's Edge and squirrel it away in the corner of the map. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/553/Creations-Edge-Games/subcategory/1519_23955/SciFi

Quote from: JimLotFP;1040549I'm one of the people he thinks is "alt-right" (he's called me a cryptofascist), for as far as I can tell saying that assaulting people on the street for political beliefs is a bad thing to do, and that my criticism of Jordan Peterson doesn't reach the levels of total condemnation.

He did this with some DFers who poorly reviewed Deep Carbon Observatory too.  50 year-old lefty Bernie Bro DFers were surprised to learn they must be closet alt-right gamergaters because they questioned whether or not previous reviews/reviewers of that product were free of bias.

https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1835192#p1835192

Quote from: Melan;1040574Great imagination, excellent reviews and posts, but he was part of a particular set on G+ who couldn't accept the legitimacy or even existence of politics other than a narrow far-left vanguardism.

I find this ironic when I encounter this given the wealth of material that is open content in use by the OSR along with it being attached with the condition that anything derived from that material also has to be open content. Especially given that even after a decade there still isn't a dominant company or a small group of dominant companies.

Quote from: Tod13;1040610I've just taken to re-skinning BFRPG or older D&D modules into a steampunk-science-fantasy setting. I use the Traveller species and the "spaceship" became an "ethership". I'll usually use one of the mini-adventures from Creation's Edge and squirrel it away in the corner of the map. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/553/Creations-Edge-Games/subcategory/1519_23955/SciFi

Thanks for link!

Quote from: Tod13;1040591And there is a real dearth of old-style modules for sci-fi. By "old-style", I mean like the original B series, that give fully fleshed adventures, without (as Mike and I have discussed elsewhere) reams of "background novelization". Most sci-fi modules follow the Classic Traveller model, and leave (too*) much up to the GM.

*YMMV

Quote from: S'mon;1040601This is extremely true! I've been looking for stuff to run with White Star and there is very little I can find other than some old Traveller adventures in White Dwarf.

Take a look at The Expanding Frontier.  It's a blog and eventual RPG product line by Tom Stephens.  The idea is that there are a vast number of resources available online for fantasy tabletop RPGs, not so much for science-fiction RPGs. As such, Mr. Stephens will create resources for science-fiction tabletop RPGs (such as maps, ships, adventures, etc.) that are system agnostic. If stats are needed, Star Frontiers stats will be given since that is the RPG that he's most familiar with, but everything should be usable with just about any science-fiction RPG.

Nothing is out at the moment, but there are two new adventures and a starship technical manual in the works already.

Quote from: JimLotFP;1040549I'm one of the people he thinks is "alt-right" (he's called me a cryptofascist), for as far as I can tell saying that assaulting people on the street for political beliefs is a bad thing to do,

NAUGHTY NAZI!

Quote from: EOTB;104061250 year-old lefty Bernie Bro DFers

MOST DEFINITELY NAZIS!

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040547Agreed. I see no sign of "peak OSR".

ONLY A NAZI WOULD SAY THAT!!!  

OMG, it's all true. This forum is nothing but Nazis!!!

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040547No. I cannot agree with the "OSR ain't what it used to be".

It has changed. There is little focus on "founder analysis" and seeking deeper research into the decision making that created the early games.

I know that focus wasn't for everyone, but I enjoyed much of what was rediscovered and discussed. We're probably all done...except for Gronan's damn book!!

Also, there isn't fanfare for new retro-clones...even though they pop up in various corners of DriveThru and other places. Instead, more attention is given to "new games in the retro mindset" and these are increasingly becoming less directly compatible with TSR D&D. And that's NOT a problem. The DIY aesthetic of the OSR exhorts us to take random bits from any product and graft them as we see fit to whatever we are running.

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040598Spot on! I am sure the old Traveller Double Adventure could get an SWN treatment. Probably a sacriledge to our good Traveller playing friends, but I would run Annica Nova or Across the Bright Face/Mission on Mithril "clone" with SWN or White Star in a heartbeat with my group that regularly plays Beyond the Wall.

I'm a huge CT fan and I've run SWN with Annic Nova. But I run Annic Nova as Event Horizon.

I do feel bad that Dungeon of Signs is going away, especially over a political controversy.

I personally believe that real-world politics of any kind is poison to gaming and any other hobby. But it's his blog and if he wants to withdraw from gaming or the OSR, that's his choice and we should respect that instead of bickering over the reasons why.

I do hope he returns to gaming and the OSR one day.

But until then, let's look on the bright side....

When one blog dies, another one is born....

https://docsammyrpg.blogspot.com

(Okay, I'll stop the shameless self-promotion now)

Seriously though, if we're going to bicker about politics, can we please take it over to Pundit's personal sub-forum?

I motion that this thread be moved to Pundency for the time being.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1040651I'm a huge CT fan and I've run SWN with Annic Nova. But I run Annic Nova as Event Horizon.

I am pretty envious right now, actually.:cool: Wow. How did it run?

I don't think the creative aspect of the OSR is petering out - but I feel like the ideological bent is.

And largely that's because, at least to a large degree, the OSR won. Major concepts like sandboxes and hex crawling are back in the gaming vocabulary.  They're no longer seen as strange nostalgic concepts (well not to the open-minded anyway).  Other aspects of the OSR seem to be a tougher sell (In my experience modern players tend to want more character options - "Better than any man" is an awesome adventure - but it's an easier sell with Shadow of a Demon Lord, than Lamentations of the Flame Princess) - which probably means that the OSR can't really grow more than it has to this point either.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1040656I motion that this thread be moved to Pundency for the time being.

I should have placed the thread in the Gaming News forum. My bad.

To be fair to people here, the lad did bring politics into his reasons for leaving.

But yeah, I agree with you about how sad it is.

OTOH Congratulations on the new blog!

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1040676I am pretty envious right now, actually.:cool: Wow. How did it run?

Awesome!

According to the module text, Annic Nova has a history of appearing in systems, then mysteriously disappearing.

And I'm a huge fan of space horror.

So...Vargr ghosts, phasing in and out of reality, regressing into mutated wolf forms, psychic emanations, all sorts of crazy haunted house stuff.

I chose SWN because the classes (Psychics, Warriors, Experts) made for a good D&D in spaaaace crew.

Quote from: TJS;1040677I don't think the creative aspect of the OSR is petering out - but I feel like the ideological bent is.

That's good news! The best part of the OSR is the creativity and camaraderie.