I suspect any Robotech kickstarter would have angry RTT trolls shitting all over it.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1031996I suspect any Robotech kickstarter would have angry RTT trolls shitting all over it.

I would disagree. The hate is not so much towards the IP and more the complete and utter bungling of how PB handled the situation imo.

To answer the OP I hesitate to say the license is done yet if someone else does get the license the rpg really needs to model the anime better imo. I had with the PB version of Robotech to be sure I never felt like it emulated the TV show. I was not asking for the rpg to be exactly like the show yet firing at Battle Pods and taking away MDc points for damage never really felt like it was Robotech.

To add insult to injury. They kept quiet all this time yet they sure as hell don't forget to keep sending me emails to buy their Robotech products before the license runs out.

Quote from: sureshot;1032056I would disagree. The hate is not so much towards the IP and more the complete and utter bungling of how PB handled the situation imo.

The Robotech Academy Kickstarter shows that you are incorrect.

Quote from: Celestial;1032059The Robotech Academy Kickstarter shows that you are incorrect.

Well I know absolutely nothing about that Kickstarter. From what I can see doing some small amount of research it seems more hate towards HG then PB.

I represent the minority vote here, apparently. But I think Robotech is much better than Macross, or the other animes Robotech is based on.

I do totally agree that HG grotesquely mismanaged it, though.

Quote from: sureshot;1032056I would disagree. The hate is not so much towards the IP and more the complete and utter bungling of how PB handled the situation imo.

To answer the OP I hesitate to say the license is done yet if someone else does get the license the rpg really needs to model the anime better imo. I had with the PB version of Robotech to be sure I never felt like it emulated the TV show. I was not asking for the rpg to be exactly like the show yet firing at Battle Pods and taking away MDc points for damage never really felt like it was Robotech.

To add insult to injury. They kept quiet all this time yet they sure as hell don't forget to keep sending me emails to buy their Robotech products before the license runs out.

I think the bulk of the hate is tied to Palladium Games but I think there are a lot of gamers out there that don't separate the IP from the "creator". 5,000 people backed RTT and only a few dozen actively post on the KS or go around the internet trying to put Palladium out of business.

Also, unless it's somebody like PEG....the chances of the next Kickstarter not being delayed or running into issues is basically 0 so if they got the rights today, had a completed product, KS it, got it to print, and got it to backers...they'd be looking at like ~2 years to make their money back. I don't see a lot of firms wanting to do that but I'm sure somebody will.

If HG gets the rights again and the movie ever goes anywhere.....my Robotech Tactics figures are going to be much more valuable so I'm on team HG!

Quote from: RPGPundit;1032376I represent the minority vote here, apparently. But I think Robotech is much better than Macross, or the other animes Robotech is based on.

I do totally agree that HG grotesquely mismanaged it, though.

I like Robotech. I've never seen Macross. I really don't have any interest in Macross because I already like Robotech and the chances of me watching Japanese cartoons at my age unless my wife or daughter watch them is 0.

Quote from: Ulairi;1032500I like Robotech. I've never seen Macross. I really don't have any interest in Macross because I already like Robotech and the chances of me watching Japanese cartoons at my age unless my wife or daughter watch them is 0.

Makes sense.

I mean, Macross is OK, but there's something different about Robotech's story that makes it more appealing to me.

Some news on Harmony Gold and their various legal issues.

Quote from: jeff37923;1033348Some news on Harmony Gold and their various legal issues.

Jesus that article is about as balanced as a MSNBC article on the current administration.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1033352Jesus that article is about as balanced as a MSNBC article on the current administration.

Well, dummy, if you read the article it says right in the beginning that it is written by the defendants of the lawsuit. Of course it is biased, it doesn't mean the base information is untrue.

Although, you could be just mad that so many people hate what Harmony Gold has done, since you seem to really want to defend them.

Quote from: jeff37923;1033363Well, dummy, if you read the article it says right in the beginning that it is written by the defendants of the lawsuit. Of course it is biased, it doesn't mean the base information is untrue.

Although, you could be just mad that so many people hate what Harmony Gold has done, since you seem to really want to defend them.

I enjoy both Battletech and Robotech. I don't understand the need to be all-in on one side or another. Early Battletech "borrowed" a number of mech designs (the Unseen) from various anime shows including Macross/Robotech but others too. What I don't get is the Battletech fans anger at HG defending its licenses all the while giving FASA a pass for doing the same thing against Playmates.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1033391I enjoy both Battletech and Robotech. I don't understand the need to be all-in on one side or another. Early Battletech "borrowed" a number of mech designs (the Unseen) from various anime shows including Macross/Robotech but others too. What I don't get is the Battletech fans anger at HG defending its licenses all the while giving FASA a pass for doing the same thing against Playmates.

Because Harmony Gold just sits on license and does nothing with it. Playmates at least did something, illegal though it was. During the Playmates case, Harmony Gold got involved just to use FASA as a sockpuppet to muddy up the case to the point that Playmates settled out of court while causing FASA to dig itself deeper into legal mud.

Quote from: jeff37923;1033397Because Harmony Gold just sits on license and does nothing with it. Playmates at least did something, illegal though it was. During the Playmates case, Harmony Gold got involved just to use FASA as a sockpuppet to muddy up the case to the point that Playmates settled out of court while causing FASA to dig itself deeper into legal mud.

HG has done a number of things, from toys, collectibles, comics and movie. I am not sure what you mean by "does nothing with it".

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1033398HG has done a number of things, from toys, collectibles, comics and movie. I am not sure what you mean by "does nothing with it".

Since the license agreement with Harmony Gold, Macross has become almost as popular as Space Battleship Yamato or Gundam in Japan and across the world - but due to the license, none of the rest of the Macross franchise can be exported legally to the US. They will milk Robotech for all that it is worth, but the profits could be so much greater if they loosened up a little.