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Should Someone Else Get the Robotech License? Or is it Basically Done?

Started by RPGPundit, March 10, 2018, 12:05:13 AM

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Ras Algethi

I kinda of hope HG is able to renew the license (again) just so we can here folks cry.

Ulairi

I don't want PEG to get it because I know they are going to feature their fugly artwork when the Palladium Robotech stuff features glorious art.

kosmos1214

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1031786I kinda of hope HG is able to renew the license (again) just so we can here folks cry.

I can pretty much guarantee there's no way in hell that will happen the owners of Macross have hated the way HG has fucked with there ability to make money of of there property.

Ras Algethi

Quote from: kosmos1214;1031900I can pretty much guarantee there's no way in hell that will happen the owners of Macross have hated the way HG has fucked with there ability to make money of of there property.

They've done it two or three times already...

Ulairi

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1031914They've done it two or three times already...

I think they will again. For as much as the fans of Macross bitch about it the property's only have value in the largest market based on Robotech.

Ras Algethi

Quote from: Ulairi;1031922I think they will again. For as much as the fans of Macross bitch about it the property's only have value in the largest market based on Robotech.

For some reason, the typical pro-Macross crowd has this idea that HG is squatting on the license/IP and not that they've done two or three transactions with Tatsunoko. HG hasn't blocked Macross to the US, it just seems Tatsunoko has had little interest in exporting it here.

kosmos1214

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1031924For some reason, the typical pro-Macross crowd has this idea that HG is squatting on the license/IP and not that they've done two or three transactions with Tatsunoko. HG hasn't blocked Macross to the US, it just seems Tatsunoko has had little interest in exporting it here.

Wrong HG literally went around the world and trademarked Macross every where they could manage and used that to deliberately block the sale of Macross related merch ect. For example there was an intention to bring one of the (main line not the og saga) SRW games state side back during the ps2 days the deal fell apart when HG used there "owner ship" of  Macross to try and force the company localizing the game to change all of the Macross characters to there robotech equivalence at which point the company dropped the idea rather then deal with the bull shit.

Omega

Robotech should die and fade away so the actual Macross series can finally be shown without all the baggage.

Bradford C. Walker

Quote from: kosmos1214;1031927Wrong HG literally went around the world and trademarked Macross every where they could manage and used that to deliberately block the sale of Macross related merch ect. For example there was an intention to bring one of the (main line not the og saga) SRW games state side back during the ps2 days the deal fell apart when HG used there "owner ship" of  Macross to try and force the company localizing the game to change all of the Macross characters to there robotech equivalence at which point the company dropped the idea rather then deal with the bull shit.
This explains how the SRW crew finally got around that problem.

Singapore.

For some reason, HG didn't succeed in pulling this stunt there. There's a significant Anglophonic population in and around that place, so a lot of English-language media that doesn't get released officially elsewhere comes out there and gets freely distributed (legally).

This is how SRW V and the new SRW X got to the West, albeit at the cost of about a month's delay and the translations being sub-only. (Also, some Engrish.)

Better than the alternatives, so I'll live with it. Fuck Harmony Gold.

Bradford C. Walker

Quote from: Omega;1031934Robotech should die and fade away so the actual Macross series can finally be shown without all the baggage.
Not just Macross. Southern Cross, Mospeada, and Megazone 23 ("The Movie") are all better in their original sources than their Mackered adaptations.

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1029481Eh, who would want them? Marvel and DC characters are ugly anyway.

Anime rocks, Capeshit sucks.

Suck it, Neo-Puritans!

Don't mix Fizzies and dish soap.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Ras Algethi

Quote from: kosmos1214;1031927Wrong HG literally went around the world and trademarked Macross every where they could manage and used that to deliberately block the sale of Macross related merch ect. For example there was an intention to bring one of the (main line not the og saga) SRW games state side back during the ps2 days the deal fell apart when HG used there "owner ship" of  Macross to try and force the company localizing the game to change all of the Macross characters to there robotech equivalence at which point the company dropped the idea rather then deal with the bull shit.

Keep drinking the kool-aid.

kosmos1214

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1031944Keep drinking the kool-aid.
Okay my last post was A touch knee jerky.  yes they have in fact dealt with HG off and on mostly because they only had 2 choices.  
1# deal with HG
2# fight it out in court and try to end HG pretending they own the entirety of Macross out side of japan.
And I will point out that Tatsunoko was involved in the lawsuit against HG IE they wanted there property back. Now they may write A new agreement that is true but if they do so I'll bet my ass to wont give HG near the control they have had over the license.
A A couple of things I found related to this that may interest every one here.
The History of Robotech Vol. 1: Harmony Gold & The Birth of Robotech
The History of Robotech vol 2: The Movie, A Lawsuit and Government Trouble
Megaton: Harmony Gold Loses the Rights to Macross in 2021
Robotech sues Battletech over Mech designs
Robotech: Tatsunoko v. Harmony Gold (short version)
A Harebrained Battletech Update
Why Macross Hasn't Come to the USA in 20 Years
Harmony Gold vs Macross Pt One "Devil in the Details"
Harmony Gold vs Macross pt 2 "The Neverseen Saga"

and finally A very long running thread over on MWO that is relivent.
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/255291-harmony-gold-v-weisman-pgi/

Note : i am still working threw thoughts vids / articles but they all help to give A grasp of this case and the insane complexity involved.

Also res this might surprise you but I have no I'll will twords robotech I simply hate Hgs bull shit.

Ras Algethi

Quote from: kosmos1214;1031953Also res this might surprise you but I have no I'll will twords robotech I simply hate Hgs bull shit.

What bullshit? They've negotiated the rights, on more than one occasion, for a product. Tatsunoko was more than willing to deal with HG.

Spinachcat

There is no reason somebody couldn't launch a Robotech RPG (or other game) in 2018 and make their money before 2021 ends the license.

Especially if they did it as a Kickstarter and got most of the money for the game line upfront.

AKA, something akin to the 7th Sea RPG.