Quote from: tenbones;1030789This rabbit-hole is starting to get deep.

Wait a minute... those rabbits look like rats....

Careful, that way lies witch hunters, there are no such things as giant rats.

Ok Tenbones, now that you have WFRP1, get either the old book Warhammer Campaign or the new pdf Shadows Over Bogenhafen.  They both have the same thing.  About 40 pages of background and some rules, then a short introductory adventure Mistaken Indentity and then Shadows Over Bogenhafen.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1030954Ok Tenbones, now that you have WFRP1, get either the old book Warhammer Campaign or the new pdf Shadows Over Bogenhafen.  They both have the same thing.  About 40 pages of background and some rules, then a short introductory adventure Mistaken Indentity and then Shadows Over Bogenhafen.

You cannot go wrong with this advice. Absolutely solid and an easy way of understanding the Empire.

Quote from: bat;1030997You cannot go wrong with this advice. Absolutely solid and an easy way of understanding the Empire.

Actually the 1e corebook has perfectly serviceable mini-adventure in it.

A minor problem with Mistaken Identity is that the whole...er...identity thing has been a problem for the past thirty years. Hopefully it will be resolved in 4e, but I'm not holding my breath.

Quote from: tenbones;1030784So what about 40k's RPG'S - Dark Heresy etc.

System similar to WHFRP?

DH1 is similar to WFRP2 in play mechanics, but character creation and advancement are rather different. With each line of the 40K games, the differences in character creation and advancement shifted more and more, with DH2 (the final game line) having very little in common with DH1 in those areas (but in play, aside from psyker power, it was very similar).

Quote from: Motorskills;1031000Actually the 1e corebook has perfectly serviceable mini-adventure in it.

A minor problem with Mistaken Identity is that the whole...er...identity thing has been a problem for the past thirty years. Hopefully it will be resolved in 4e, but I'm not holding my breath.

It's the intro campaign info that's very useful. History, politics, religion, travel, Sigmar Priests, Herbs etc.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1031010It's the intro campaign info that's very useful. History, politics, religion, travel, Sigmar Priests, Herbs etc.

Yes, you are absolutely correct, lots of excellent info / theme.

Only War's the most distilled system-wise of the entire line. That's not necessarily saying a lot. If you're up for changing names, places, titles and terms around, you could quite conceivably and fairly easily turn it into WHFRP. If you want something ready-to-go, stick with 2E (that's the one I played and my experience with game and group I played with was so-so/alright).

I had to heavily modify portions of the system when I hosted Only War back in the day -- and it made fucktons more fun and rewarding for my players thank God -- so there will be plenty of things in the system you probably are just gonna hate if you're the kind of GM who actually likes to design scenarios and do gameplay that isn't proscribed by the book (and that's something the WH40KRP games are very much about!) WHFRP suffers from this too -- just know that going in.

Quote from: PrometheanVigil;1031029Only War's the most distilled system-wise of the entire line. That's not necessarily saying a lot. If you're up for changing names, places, titles and terms around, you could quite conceivably and fairly easily turn it into WHFRP. If you want something ready-to-go, stick with 2E (that's the one I played and my experience with game and group I played with was so-so/alright).

I had to heavily modify portions of the system when I hosted Only War back in the day -- and it made fucktons more fun and rewarding for my players thank God -- so there will be plenty of things in the system you probably are just gonna hate if you're the kind of GM who actually likes to design scenarios and do gameplay that isn't proscribed by the book (and that's something the WH40KRP games are very much about!) WHFRP suffers from this too -- just know that going in.

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I would go with WFRP 2e, ideally.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1031345I would go with WFRP 2e, ideally.

Nah, he's got to start with WFRP1, find out what the Old World was like before the Storm of Chaos began the death spiral.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1030954Ok Tenbones, now that you have WFRP1, get either the old book Warhammer Campaign or the new pdf Shadows Over Bogenhafen.  They both have the same thing.  About 40 pages of background and some rules, then a short introductory adventure Mistaken Indentity and then Shadows Over Bogenhafen.

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Quote from: CRKrueger;1031358Nah, he's got to start with WFRP1, find out what the Old World was like before the Storm of Chaos began the death spiral.

The rules for 2e are far more usable.

It is great that playing a video game has made the OP want to get some WHFRP books out and do some proper roleplaying. I was never that happy with the system they used but it is quite serviceable. Vermintide is a great game btw.

Quote from: tenbones;1030458More to consider. Now I'm eyeballing ZWEIHANDER too....

If you've not picked up Zweihander yet, I'd check out this 5 part detailed review from the Vorpal Mace blog.

http://vorpalmace.blogspot.hu/2017/06/review-zweihander-grim-and-perilous-rpg.html