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Steve Jackson just re-aquired the rights to The Fantasy Trip

Started by Skarg, December 26, 2017, 06:39:51 PM

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Skarg

It seems like after 35 years, the laws allow an author to re-snag publisher-abandoned titles, and he did.

I'm pretty thrilled / hopeful.

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=154125

Omega

Quote from: Skarg;1016215It seems like after 35 years, the laws allow an author to re-snag publisher-abandoned titles, and he did.

I'm pretty thrilled / hopeful.

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=154125

That would explain the report of massive takedown attacks on various fan made material or rethemes recently by SJG.

And why would you be thrilled they got ahold of it. That just means they will stifle it like their other re-acquisitions and then one shot it for a fast buck and then bury it.

Gronan of Simmerya

We should be thrilled because it will be available again, even if only briefly.

I just hope he doesn't fuck with it.
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Skarg

Well, I was not thinking of any kind of crack down on fan material - that seems silly and backwards and liable to backfire.

I was thinking that at the least, the games and their components should be available in new editions, which means they can be conventionally recommended without having to send someone a PDF of something from 1980-85 or direct them to eBay or something. And new components such as counters and maps. More new players will get to try it and so on, and IME it was a great intro RPG, especially to the type of RPG I personally like. And it's a sentimental favorite. And SJ has written he'd like to make new editions with modern production values, which I don't need but would probably enjoy... as long as they don't mess it up.

Personally I do think there are some issues that could be addressed other than editing and organization, hopefully done in a good way. I know more or less what I'd do, anyway...

Dumarest

I didn't  read the whole forum...does Steve Jackson Games say somewhere they are going to produce and sell The Fantasy Trip as-is or a revised version?

TrippyHippy

Quote from: Dumarest;1016241I didn't  read the whole forum...does Steve Jackson Games say somewhere they are going to produce and sell The Fantasy Trip as-is or a revised version?
There's a sort of of 'watch this space' type of notice. So, it looks like it.
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Skarg

There's one post by Steve Jackson. He says he doesn't know what he's going to do exactly yet, except he thinks probably starting with a kickstarter Melee kit with a bunch of miniatures would be good, and that he'd like to see the old books released with current production values. And that he only got the rights to the books he wrote. So Melee, Wizard, Advanced Melee, Advanced Wizard, In The Labyrinth, Tollenkar's Lair, but I'm not sure exactly which MicroQuests - I'd guess the earlier ones though not the later ones (Master Of The Amulets, Land Beyond The Mountains, Lords Of UnderEarth...).

Dumarest

Well, I will surely be keeping an eye on that!

On Christmas I was thinking about playing a Sindbad game using The Fantasy Trip.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Omega;1016219That would explain the report of massive takedown attacks on various fan made material or rethemes recently by SJG.

And why would you be thrilled they got ahold of it. That just means they will stifle it like their other re-acquisitions and then one shot it for a fast buck and then bury it.

Has this happened? Any links?

If so, that's a shame.

Ravenswing

Interesting ... I never thought of 17 USC 203 to regain rights to long out of print stuff.  I should give Walter and Rich a call and we can snag Forest Lords of Dihad back ...
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JeremyR

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I hope this doesn't hose Dark City Games. They've been publishing their retro clone of TFT (well, that part is free, they sell modules for it). Especially since all SJ will do is make an expensive Kickstarter ($100? $200 maybe for both) with fancy counters and maps and then forget about it.


Anyway, I don't think this is necessarily for publisher abandoned stuff or books. I believe this is how Victor Willis got back the rights to the Village People songs he wrote. After 35 years, you can just get your rights back for whatever.

DavetheLost

There are still a number of TFT sites actively posting content, some of which is in quite blatant violation of copyright law. Reports of their demise seem greatly exaggerated.

Which "requisitions" have been subject to "one shot and bury"?

DavetheLost

Quote from: JeremyR;1016258I hope this doesn't hose Dark City Games. They've been publishing their retro clone of TFT (well, that part is free, they sell modules for it). Especially since all SJ will do is make an expensive Kickstarter ($100? $200 maybe for both) with fancy counters and maps and then forget about it.

Or they will do what they have done with Ogre. Produce a deluxe version via Kickstarter, then release a very nice updated version for the retail market, support it with at least on retail expansion, a retail card game, and retail released plastic miniatures. Not exactly forgotten. Multiple digital supporting products are available for Ogre, including new content, and there was a succesful KS for a second set of plastic miniatures, with a third set in the planning stages. As wellas the still in development "Ogre Battlefields" expansion, and the Ogre computer game on Steam for both Mac and PC.

I bought Car Wars classic at retail not long ago, and am pretty sure that game also had a succesful KS.

Munchkin of course remains SJG's bread&Butter product line.

estar

Quote from: Omega;1016219That would explain the report of massive takedown attacks on various fan made material or rethemes recently by SJG.

And why would you be thrilled they got ahold of it. That just means they will stifle it like their other re-acquisitions and then one shot it for a fast buck and then bury it.
Legends of the Ancient Worlds is still up as well as Heroes and Other Worlds do you have any links to back this?

Gronan of Simmerya

Oh hooray, there is no report of good news in this hobby that somebody can't shit all over.

Fucking gamers.
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