If we relate this whole thing to RPGnet/ENWorld, I think the Lamb got it right, albeit with his own preferences involved. The RPGsite is the site where I may argue, fight, get down in the ditch, and then move on (it does have its own merits. Sometimes a sledgehammer is better than a blowhorn). The RPGHaven is the place where it's a consensus to behave and YET, where I do not have to deal with the shitty clique-moderation of RPGnet or ENWorld.

Quote from: J Arcane;302660You know what?  

Go fuck yourself.

A sterling rejoinder, old chap.  Tell me again, why is it you come around here?

!i!

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;302056Edit: I'm not banned from there, you cocksmock. Stop trying to stir cross-board shit.

I'm sorry, I meant WalkerP. And his banning here was what I was talking about...Kyle A, Walker P...my mistake, not trying to start rumors.

However, I'm not eally trying to stir shit, I'm just offering my honest opinion here. RpgHaven is a reactionary creation to theRPGsite. It offers me no reason to bother with registering and posting there.

Quote from: TGGYou say that "thre is nothing that you can find at the Haven that you cant find here. There is nothing that you can find here that you cant find on rpg.net, enworld or any other rpg site.

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There is nothing wrong with multiple forums

Koltar, Pundit and a wild west "shut the fuck up douchebag" attitude aren't really available anywhere ese. They're both general RPG boards but nobody at the rpgsite was "recruited."Reminds me of high school drama "cool kids club" bullshit.

Also, there is something wrong with multiple forums: It's fucking inconvenient. It's time consuming and confusing for me (as already evidenced above where I confused Kyle Aaron and WalkerP). Everybody (except WalkerP) there could post here and the haven offers NOTHING but a Punditless forum.

Quote from: Ian Absentia;302691A sterling rejoinder, old chap.  Tell me again, why is it you come around here?

!i!

Exactly what the fuck is that question supposed to mean, hmm?

Quote from: Hairfoot;302683I will engage in partisan boosterism on only two topics: Swords & Wizardry, and Basic Fantasy RPG, because they're awesome.

Boost away.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;302606If this is the case, I'm quite sorry. I have never actually stopped anyone from starting a thread about any kind of game, as long as its in the right forum.

This is absolutely true.

Point is, I don't see any good in the "If I post here, I won't post there" perspective. And I disagree with Pundit when he says that any conversation in other board can be had here and be the same: that never happens.

As an example, I cross-posted a thread here an in RPG.net about possible choices of Basic D&D Modules for a sandbox campaign I'm thinking. Even having some persons popping in both threads to give their opinions, the thread were different, and the results better for that.

As it happens with games, it happens with fora: variety is good, the more the better. I post here because I enjoy things the way they are here, as in RPG.net, probably the Haven and other boards. The interboards wars areprtty asinine.

Quote from: KrakaJak;302695RpgHaven is a reactionary creation to theRPGsite. It offers me no reason to bother with registering and posting there.

I am not sure what your point is.  TheRPGsite was a reactionary creation to the rpg.net after The RPGPundit was kicked off of there as a place without the "Mod Abuse" that was going on there.  Your point?

Quote from: KrakaJak;302695Koltar, Pundit and a wild west "shut the fuck up douchebag" attitude aren't really available anywhere ese. They're both general RPG boards but nobody at the rpgsite was "recruited."Reminds me of high school drama "cool kids club" bullshit.

I guess if you like that sort of thing.  I see a forum that contains a bunch of  people (not everyone mind you) who dont know how to treat people who were kicked off other boards.   they are now here treating eachother they way they treated others on the forums they got kicked off of.  

Quote from: KrakaJak;302695Also, there is something wrong with multiple forums: It's fucking inconvenient. It's time consuming and confusing for me (as already evidenced above where I confused Kyle Aaron and WalkerP). Everybody (except WalkerP) there could post here and the haven offers NOTHING but a Punditless forum.

Not true, the other forum could have discussions that arent found here.   Besides, as I said before there is nothing being posted here that I cant find on rpg.net, enworld or anywhere else.

So you can say the same thing about TheRPGSite (or you could direct that comment to any forum on the internet)

Quote from: The Game Guy;302744TheRPGsite was a reactionary creation to the rpg.net after The RPGPundit was kicked off of there as a place without the "Mod Abuse" that was going on there.

You do realize that theRPGsite was created years after Pundit was banned from RPGnet, right?

Quote from: JongWK;302745You do realize that theRPGsite was created years after Pundit was banned from RPGnet, right?

Regardless of the time span between the two, he has said that he wanted to create a forum without the mod abuse found on rpg.net

It may not have been as fast as a reaction as The RPG Haven but its exactly the same.

As for The Haven, I have registered but there isnt really much for me there.  I may visit back there in a month or two but as it is I am trying to limit the time I spend on message boards.

If I didnt have a thread going on rpg.net I wouldnt even bother going there anymore

Again, the important point is that theRPGsite offers something DIFFERENT from RPG.net without just being "RPG.net Clone with Pundit In Charge Instead of Modclique and an Anti-RPG.net focus".

The other site does not, it is an RPGsite clone; even its pundit-hate isn't something you can't get here.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;302812Again, the important point is that theRPGsite offers something DIFFERENT from RPG.net without just being "RPG.net Clone with Pundit In Charge Instead of Modclique and an Anti-RPG.net focus".

The other site does not, it is an RPGsite clone; even its pundit-hate isn't something you can't get here.

RPGPundit

 Actually the Pundit-hate, and every other type of hate on the boards is rather pathetic. you either like a system or hate it, but to wage a war of words concerning likes/dislikes of various systems of games w/in a shrinking, fairly insignificant hobby is worthy of derision. I hate Rifts, I'll make comments about it, but that's not a reflection of the people who enjoy it.
 
Disarm the pocket protectors, boys,  play your games, discuss them and have fun!  I happen to like Pundit's Mod style and his blunt honesty. I like the fact that I can call a wanker, a wanker. Would I run this site the same way? Nope, I'd be bitchslapping some nerds. But that's MY style of modding, due to the fact that I'm easily annoyed. it's a fucking RPG forum, for crying out loud.
 
 it's not like the rest of the world cares about our pathetic, dying little hobby.
 
 And you see in different threads, the derision people of different shades of life get here by certain cocksuckers. Way to grow interest in the hobby. Had I been somebody that was new to hobby, I would have told a lot of you to piss off and found something else to do.
 
 You'd be astounded by the sheer number of punks who like to play RPGS, and yet, I meet derision for not dressing like a suit. Fuck that noise.
 
 Punks who play RPGS, are punks who aren't breaking your stuff. Think of it that way.
 
 But then again, a lot of you don't have the foresight to say, "we don't want the hobby to die, we need to stop being exclusionary."
 
 I'm going to make a little bit of noise here, leave my yahoo to whomever is interested, and say adios.  Pundit, I wish ya luck, mate.
 
screachvox@yahoo.com

Quote from: shalvayez;302826Actually the Pundit-hate, and every other type of hate on the boards is rather pathetic.
 you either like a system or hate it, but to wage a war of words concerning likes/dislikes of various systems of games w/in a shrinking, fairly insignificant hobby is worthy of derision.

You mean like the hate of the Swine?
Seems to me it's a rather focused board in this regard. It's not judgmental on my part, just a fact I'm stating.

First the Mods now the Punks....Noooo

Regards,
David R

Bell boy!

While the ballet of copycat threads between theRPGsite and the Haven goes on, one can, by the way, witness the vindication of the idea that, even with some of the same people between sites, similar threads will evolve in completely different ways between sites, and that reinforces my belief that this whole thing is not about "theRPGsite without the Pundit" or not, but rather about a different set of circumstances altogether.

This is a reason to rejoice in the proliferation of offshoot sites rather than poopooing the idea.

Both sites bring the best out of people in very, very different ways, and I think it's only appropriate.
Long live both theRPGsite and the RPG Haven.