You know what? I'm not happy with this situation at all.

Not at all happy.

Don't like Pundit? Great, man up and admit that's why the haven was started. I don't care about that. He ain't my bestest buddy either, especially at the time the haven first started.

But stop mucking about.

Not that any fucker cares, but you know what i've got invested in this site? The development of a game. 2 years of my time, in fact.

Stop messing with 2 years of my life.

People who respect me will hopefully take that at face value.

Let's keep the cross-forum shit out of it.

Haven - stop the trash talk. Pundit stop nicking threads. Bill, stop re-nicking threads whilst pretending to be above it all.

Quote from: Imperator;302229True, in my case people probably don't talk about me so much because I haven't made a tireless effort on building a psychotic persona over Internet, get kicked of several message boards and, when it comes to certain games and designers, behave like a complete fucknugget. And I'm glad for that.

You may want to hold responsibility for that.

But nothing of these proves that. Yes, some persons at the Haven may hve grudges against you, which shouldn't come as a surprise. That doesn't makes the Haven a board only devoted to destroying this site and everything related to it. There are some differences.

I post and read mainly the boards here, RPG.net and Nación Rolera. From tim to time I visit Storygames, the Forge and some official message boards. I don't see why visiting some boards should prevent me from visiting others.

As Shalvayez says, I don't think these boards are hostile. And frankly, the Swine Conspiracy is fun to read. I don't care if some other person consiedrs me a Swine because we don't always like the same games, or whatever. But I can see how some other persons may appreciate to be able to discuss any game without any assumption of conspiracies, ideological wars and shit like that.

There you go talking about me again.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;302254There you go talking about me again.

RPGPundit

You're doing everything you can for it to be about you. By copy/pasting the threads, you want to make the RPG Haven "theRPGsite sans Pundit". It's a double-edged sword, my friend, particularly when you start acting like a douche.

This whole thing is ridiculous. You're one of the jackasses who really, really want to keep this going. Can we all stop that shit now?

Quote from: jeff37923;302217The clubhouse doesn't allow douchebags. You may reapply for membership once you reform your behavior.

Douchebag.

Jeffy, the joke went over your head. Again.

Man, the more I read, the more fucking ridiculous this gets.

Think about it: All of the internet is Swine-friendly and moderated by cool kids cliques. In walks the Pundit and creates a place that´s anti-Swine and moderated by...well...Bill the Butcher, in all it´s tasteless, atavistic  "benevolent dictator" glory. Of course, banning only for the "purity of the polis", just as Dick Cheney does it.

So, instead of doing the LOGICAL thing, doing away with Bill the Butcher as the last opressive force against free speech & debate, the metast-asstic "Haven" recreates THE REST OF THE NET, reinstating Swine-tolerance and mod-clique protection! That´s fucking hilarious & stupid at the same time.

ALL of you look so doodyheaded right now, including Doc Rotwang.

Quote from: Settembrini;302263ALL of you look so doodyheaded right now, including Doc Rotwang.

You come off as a wandering, between-boards asshole who just enjoys this whole situation WAY too much, right now.

Can't take it when freedom of speech means some basic ground rules of individual responsibility to not be a dick? Enjoy your blog.
As simple as that, IMO.

And this is refuting which of my arguments?
Oh, none, I see.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;302257Jeffy, the joke went over your head. Again.

It's a joke that you are being a douchebag when you threaten to reveal someone's personal info on the internet just to amuse yourself? Ha-ha, lots of laughs there, douchebag.

Grow up and behave more like Hinterwelt because he's providing a good example to emulate.

Quote from: Settembrini;302275And this is refuting which of my arguments?
Oh, none, I see.

I don't need to refute any of your arguments because you're right, Sett.

That doesn't mean I'm wrong, since I didn't address your arguments in the first place but led them to their natural conclusion, further commenting that you're taking way too much pleasure out of all this crap flying around. Logical enough for you?

And let me show you, how YOU are indeed wrong about me (and so is Kyle whoda thunk?):

From the first few posts I made many years ago, I was consistent in my stance on moderation. And that´s why I helped making theRPGSite viable. Go back, and count posts & threads, and shitstorms. Go back, even in pre-nutkinland days, "my issue" always was the poisonous intellectual climate so prevalent in North American forums that are moderated via bannings.
For a while, I thought Pundit had the same stance, as I know now, he did not. Tough luck. Seems there is still a niche waiting to be filled. Anyone who does fill it, will have my full support.

But the sheer audacity of taste, making an anti-Pundit site is beyond irony, beyond stupidity. The fucking rest of the internet is anti-Pundit in the way you interpret it. It´s as useful or brave as writing an Anti-George Bush letter to a newspaper in Latin America.  
Oh sorry, you already conceded I was right with that point, I got carried away.

Quote from: Settembrini;302252So calling out the Swine is forbidden! Thanks for proving me right, and fuck off with the insults you slung at me, insinuating I was seeing ghosts.

Proto-fascist control freaks. Kyle should feel right at home. Oh man, theRPGsite´s culture is so fucked up these days, they are exporting the fucked up-ness to metastasing boards these days.

Folks, grow a pair, all of you. Do away with mods and this childish crap.

Edit: I´m tempted, I must say. Tempted indeed.

So, you would rather ban the swine? Good show. You really sick of it? Then fucking leave the sites you say you are going to leave and go found your own English RPG site. Do it. I did it. Why can't you? I suspect it is because you are all talk. Sorry, can't respect that.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253You know what? I'm not happy with this situation at all.

Let's see, how does this work?
Cry me fucking river bitch. Too fucking bad.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253Not at all happy.

Don't like Pundit? Great, man up and admit that's why the haven was started. I don't care about that. He ain't my bestest buddy either, especially at the time the haven first started.

No, because that is not the reason it was founde3d fucknuts. Serious, are you drinking the fucking Koolaid. I will say it again because you just seem to simple to get it, The Haven was founded as a place to discuss all RPGs in a low moderation environment. You can't do that here any more. That is not a bad thing, it just does not fill the need I have for a board.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253But stop mucking about.

Not that any fucker cares, but you know what i've got invested in this site? The development of a game. 2 years of my time, in fact.

You are right, I do not give a shit.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253Stop messing with 2 years of my life.

People who respect me will hopefully take that at face value.

I so but you seem to desparately want what I have come to expect as a typical RPGSite "discussion" of the topic.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253Let's keep the cross-forum shit out of it.

I would fucking love to.

Quote from: One Horse Town;302253Haven - stop the trash talk. Pundit stop nicking threads. Bill, stop re-nicking threads whilst pretending to be above it all.

Oh, you mean the one on sci-fi tech, where I credited Elliot and provided a link back to this site? No. ETA: You know, I will, if Pundit does. My one to his ten or so.

Now, I would rather have a reasoned discussion, or really preferably none at all, with you about this Dan but you do not seem to want that. Am I mistaken?

As I said, Bill, I´m tempted. Upthread you´ll find it.

Quote from: Settembrini;302283And let me show you, how YOU are indeed wrong about me.

All I'm saying is: since you find the moderation so bad here and at the Haven, you still can enjoy your blog or create your own English-speaking board. That's it. How is that wrong about you? Because you just won't give up on your definition of free speech?

Sett, you're the funniest thing that I've seen in a long time.  Please continue posting here and at The RPG Haven.  Continue the War until the bitter end!  The utter stupidity of your posts just brings a smile and grin to my face.  Seriously, I just cannot help grinning when I read your infantile posts. (see!)

For some unfathomable reason, I have this mental picture of you as a scary (now, as opposed to when he was younger) Carrot Top look alike.

Quote from: Settembrini;302300As I said, Bill, I´m tempted. Upthread you´ll find it.

What? To blow hard some more on a site you have "left" about a hundred times. So, leave, go make you own site that is the new incarnation of 4chan...but freer.

Go ahead. I'll wait.