Quote from: Skywalker;664589Its unfortunate, but given his mod status is granted by Pundit, it is also totally predictable. It is one way that this site is clearly inferior to other forums such as RPGnet. But as you say, given Pundit owns the site, it's the price to pay to post here.

Seriously? You're trying to claim that the mods here are chosen by some kind of nepotism, and moreso than rpgnet?  None of the mods here were friends of mine when they were chosen, and lots of my friends (including people I actually know IRL) are not mods here. My considerations for every single mod here has been no more and no less than people who are very frequent posters capable and willing to keep an eye out for spambots; plus in the case of Brett (and Benoist) that they be willing to handle the technical sides of administration.  There has never been any political or ideological considerations for mod-status, though I'm obviously not going to pick someone who's a hardcore Storygames Swine or pundit-hater.

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Also, if I was "trying to set up a cult of personality" in this place, I'm doing a really piss-poor job of going about it, starting with the fact that I've let countless posters regularly shit on me and insult me with impunity over the last 7 years.

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Quote from: danbuter;664654So Skywalker is next up on the list of "banned for disrupting the site"? That's a shame.

Yeah see, that's your own delusions at work right here.

Quote from: RPGPundit;664659Also, if I was "trying to set up a cult of personality" in this place, I'm doing a really piss-poor job of going about it, starting with the fact that I've let countless posters regularly shit on me and insult me with impunity over the last 7 years.

Most are gone I notice, and GW is just the latest. Not that I've missed any of them, it's the guys who's left in protest afterward that generally were the ones I liked reading. It's always the guys on the sidelines that suffer. Why I haven't been banned yet is something of a mystery given that you're stated flatly that my posting is nothing but trolling on a number of occasion and that's a now an offense worthy of a ban.

Still, your board- your rules. One shouldn't expect much when the guy in charge is a made-up caricature instead of real person who would have to take ownership for their deeds.

Quote from: Benoist;664652Come on, you've already put up more than you ever did in any of the threads where you tried to sneak in story-based games as traditional RPGs ever, like you did with The One Ring and others, pretending they were "oh yes, completely trad games," so you might as well show the whole set of cards and claim the prize, now.

The One Ring is a story-game now? :rolleyes:

Ghost Whistler is a loss. Shame. RPGsite loses more than it gains by his banning.

Quote from: RPGPundit;664657Other Games is the SECOND forum on the list; it also explicitly states "For discussion of all other games, including story-games, miniatures, board, card, computer, and video".  Story games is the very first one mentioned. But sure, we've "hidden it away". :rolleyes:

Y'know, though I would prefer to see them in one forum as there is a significant crossover (as even Benoist had admitted), I would have less issue if there was a genuine story-game forum. However, that's simply not the case. Some RPGs get a pass, and others get moved. To give an example, FATE is apparently an RPG and The One Ring is now a story-game. The only consistent basis for this distinction is whether you like the RPG, the fans and the writers or not (something you pretty much admitted to regarding Dungeon World).

You also refuse to actually argue the point too, simply making a call (usually at the point that your arguments fail) and shift the goal posts by claiming the onus is on the fan or writers to convince you otherwise. I don't underestimate you enough to know that you know exactly what effect such underhanded tactics have.

When you add this in with much higher standards of moderation on threads of RPGs you don't like, e.g. you closed the first TBZ thread after it went off topic for 1 page or the banning of GW after he got under your skin, its clear that you are so entrenched with your own agenda that you are prepared to compromise whatever to serve that, even petty moderation. And on top of all that you still seem to be able to expect toclaim that you are somehow above petty moderators who are doing exactly the same thing over on TBP.

Quote from: RPGPundit;664657Really? That's news to me.

The quote made when you admitted you hadn't read DW:

Quote from: RPGPundit;664657Irrelevant. I've been shown enough of its rules (plus the background of the authors involved) to know what it is. The onus is on them to prove otherwise.

So apparently no actual knowledge of the game is enough of a basis for you to make a call until the "authors" prove to you otherwise :confused:

This is similar to your paranoid and foundationless 'Ron Hates On Zebra' conspiracy that Andy Kitowski somehow rewrote Tenra Bansho Zero in the translation soley to establish that story games could somehow be a natural development of RPGs outside of the Forge.

Wow, i never thought i was petty, but you learn something every day.

If you want the blatant nepotism, abuse of power, bullying, and unreasonable attitude of mine to stop, just say so.

Quote from: Benoist;664651Well basically, that means to me "I don't actually have a counter-argument, but I really can't stand the Pundit's opinions so ... fuck it, I feel sorry for you because you're not going down the rabbit hole of Pundit-fuckwitery with me."

Well... OK. No. I won't. And you know that.

I don't have a counter-argument because I am stating an opinion. I'm not soliciting your approval of it; quit trying to solicit mine.

I am genuinely sorry that you've been reduced to making excuses for the asshattery of an oblivious rat who balks at the mention of his long-made-public real name, who makes up facts to discredit his perceived enemies, and who believes himself on a crusade to make a geeky hobby Ideologically Pure.

Quote from: The Butcher;664728I don't have a counter-argument because I am stating an opinion. I'm not soliciting your approval of it; quit trying to solicit mine.

Well. I'm sorry you feel that bad about the Pundit.

Quote from: Skywalker;664681The One Ring is a story-game now? :rolleyes:

It certainly isn't a traditional role playing game to me. Its design is entirely predicated on the narrative stance.

Quote from: Skywalker;664684Y'know, though I would prefer to see them in one forum as there is a significant crossover (as even Benoist had admitted)

See, that's when you are twisting people's words like this to LIE about what they said that you lose my respect.

What I, and many others besides me, have repeated over and over on the forums in every single debate about story games we've had over the years is that there is no hard line between traditional role playing games and story games, but a spectrum, just like there is a spectrum between wargames and traditional role playing games, and no hard line between them. The fact there is a spectrum does NOT mean that wargames are role playing games, or role playing games wargames, that it's all the same thing or that the distinction is pointless. Same thing with story games.

You construing this as some "news" that now somehow "I even admit" is BULLSHIT. It's a LIE. It's something you guys have been consistently ignoring that's been said over and over because that doesn't fit your narrative of the bad delusional guys making a difference between narrative games and role playing games and having to be Manichaean hateful people seeing the world in black and white for you to then fight that strawman.

Quote from: The Butcher;664728I am genuinely sorry that you've been reduced to making excuses for the asshattery of an oblivious rat who balks at the mention of his long-made-public real name

The reason he does that is so that he can maintain the claim that RPGPundit is a online character and is as such not a reflection of himself.

It allows him freedom to be the idiot that he is, and if anyone in real life called him on it he'd laugh it off because 'Pundit' isn't real. Hence why I refuse to treat him as real, he's not. It's a rather simple and child childish character made to troll the Forge Crowd that was never useful and has existed for far too long.

That others do treat him as real is just a mark for how foolish people are online. I'm sure he laughs at them every night about the joke he's pulled on them.

I read from this site for years before creating an account to have discussions with many members that have long since left due to the moderators and certain policies.  They stated this both publicly and privately.

If the RPGPundit would like to make this site successful, he may want to consider the criticisms.  Or he could keep the status quo.

Every board loses people no matter what policies are in place.

Could we have kept the half dozen or so that left in a huff with different policies? Maybe. We'd probably lose half a dozen different posters then.

I think we get that lots of you think Pundit is a big old meanie (he is).

What i personally don't get is why posting in a different forum is such a hardship.

Why do you care what Pundit thinks of your games? You can still discuss them to your heart's content - in the correct forum.

For the record, i think that the vast majority of Storygames are RPGs, with the emphasis on aspects of roleplaying that i'm not personally interested in. However, what i think is irrelevant. We have a forum for their discussion and a forum for traditional games. The twain will even meet sometimes and we'll have a tizzy before Pundit decides where a thread should go.

This shouldn't interfere with your life on the board in a significant way, unless you're spoiling for a fight, or place a bit too much importance on something that is really rather trivial, which GW has done over a number of years. For the record i had a soft spot for the nutter that was GW too and i was the one who banned him - so that sucks doesn't it?