Quote from: jadrax;663511It seems to me that if you don't like the set-up here, you can always go elsewhere.

Suggestions?

Quote from: Melan;663676But the sad part of it, there is really nowhere else to go. Other forums are mostly horrible or dead, except maybe RPGCodex, which is a lot like the RPGSite I liked, but it is for bitching about computer games, not P&P RPGs. So I increasingly go nowhere.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. At this point I think I'll just use G+ and only add the people I know I can have useful discussions with.

So Jadrax, Melan, and anyone else, if you want PM me your Google IDs. Mine's easy as it's the same as everywhere else on the internet.

Quote from: jeff37923;663571Why is it that when someone is banned here, usually for being a dedicated douchebag,

Dude, the LAST thing people get banned for here is being dedicated douchebag, and the level of spite and resentment leveled at other games and designers is obscenely counterproductive for a board trying to be about RPGs.

Quote from: Benoist;663614It's really, really not complicated: the main RPG forum is "For discussion of traditional pen-and-paper roleplaying games and anything related to their game mechanics and settings, as well as industry events and gossip."

Emphasis mine. This is the Traditional RPGs forum.

Oh, so THAT'S why it's called the "Traditional Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Main Forum".

Oh wait, now I see. It's only in the tiny fonted description.

Quote from: danbuter;663640I'd also love to see what post actually pushed this over the edge, as nothing started by him has been moved to Other Games in weeks.

Quote from: Rincewind1;663642Yes, I am curious as well, because I hadn't seen any new thread since that Modern Gaming one.

Quote from: soviet;663658Yeah, ditto.

Quote from: danbuter;663689The super-secret post that got him banned is what is making me interested.

Quote from: The Traveller;663694As OHT said, it was the stoner post in media.

It's this one.

And while I also think it's a waste of space, is was still posted in the appropriate forum.

Quote from: The Traveller;663694No relevance whatsoever to RPGs or gaming, just get-a-blog material.

Yep, and as we all know only the Pundit is allowed to do that, sometimes going so far as to repost blog entries he made years ago.

So is it really any surprise this site is filthy with narcissists who can't see past their own opinion?

Oh, one more thing.

Quote from: The Traveller;663694You know that useless prick darren maclennan told poor celebrityomnipath to write normally? That's like CO's thing, man. I liked his style, that takes a lot of effort.

It's rare enough we're on the same page about things, so I think this should be celebrated. Anyway, I also questioned this ban in TT, adding that things like acronyms were a bigger barrier to communication.

Quote from: Anon AdderlanAnd things like using acronyms instead of full game titles are actually a far bigger barrier to clarity than misspelling, because even Google can properly index misspelled words, but it's not going to make that jump with acronyms.

For this I was accused of spreading 'fearmongering soapbox bullshit', which was an accusation I couldn't respond to because it was added AFTER that thread was locked.

Well, now I bring you this: FAE means Fate Accelerated Edition

And strangely enough, I can't respond in that thread either, because it's ALSO locked. >_<

Anyway, thought you all would appreciate this.

Quote from: Ladybird;663715I like CO, he's one of my favorite RPGnet posters, but it's a pain to read sometimes and he's apparently admitted it's a gimmick, not an actual learning disability. So fuck that shit.

Ah me balls, it was patently obvious it wasn't a learning disability, and what's wrong with gimmicks? Just put him on ignore if it bothers you that much. A little more colour just went out of the internet is what happened. Bunch of whiny little bitches, god forbid anyone show a little style or individuality, the poster police will be all over that.

Since he's been posting like that for years without problems or objections, what's far more likely is that someone decided one of his comments transgressed one of their random weekly triggers, or someone was just having a bad day and decided to take it out on CO, or darren felt like showing people the size of his e-peen.

Quote from: Melan;663676GW's banning is not so much a miscarriage of justice as something that strikes me as random and meaningless. Stepped on a landmine that shouldn't have been there.

Sorry melan, that's just not true.

I actually have a silly soft-spot for GW. It is probably misplaced and he's a twit rather than someone with communication issues (which is what i think), but he's ignored many warnings over the period of a year or more.

Shit, he's posted multiple threads where they shouldn't be and said so in the OP. Now, as Rince said, it's not a great deal of work to move it, but when the person doing it is doing it on purpose, then why should we waste our lives cleaning up after them, when the base purpose seems to be to fuck with us?

He was banned for the media thread - the reason being that he's done exactly the same thing many times and when he posted about the new Rush album last year, clearly stated he knew it shouldn't be posted there and suggested we should "suck it".

He wasn't even banned for that - but there comes a point where i asked myself 'why are we putting up with this?'

That's just his exploits in the media section. We haven't even touched on the number of times he's purposely mis-posted or even trolled his own threads inh the main forum.

Sorry if i don't shed a tear for the guy.

Quote from: The Traveller;663776Ah me balls, it was patently obvious it wasn't a learning disability, and what's wrong with gimmicks? Just put him on ignore if it bothers you that much. A little more colour just went out of the internet is what happened. Bunch of whiny little bitches, god forbid anyone show a little style or individuality, the poster police will be all over that.

Dude, I like CO, and I'm willing to put in the time (Not that his posts are that bad, don't get me wrong). There's nothing really wrong with gimmicks, but the internet is a text-only medium; if your gimmick impedes your communication (Which I feel CO's gimmick does, sometimes, when he pushes it too far), then what you are saying had better be damn good, else people won't bother with you.

You're right on someone over at TBP probably having decided to throw a wobbly that day, but I think if he'd been posting here, he'd have got warned for it much sooner.

Quote from: Ladybird;663798You're right on someone over at TBP probably having decided to throw a wobbly that day, but I think if he'd been posting here, he'd have got warned for it much sooner.

I disagree, I think he'd have been mocked for it for a while but no official action would ever have been taken. After all we already have members who use fairly pioneering grammar and spelling and nobody says anything about it.

Celebrityomnipath was and is one of the most inoffensive posters on rpgnet, the whole thing stinks of mod manipulation by some chronic handbagger who forgot to take their pills that morning. How many years has he been posting like that without a bother? Now it's like looking at a fluffy little doggy that was shorn of its coat, a sad and lame sight.

Don't get me wrong, I understand GW earned it. And I'm not calling for unbanning him (unless he asks of his own accord), because that'd basically be a bad precedent allowing him to continue such "disruption". I have no tears to shed here neither.

But I think a soft hand, moving thread policy, while may evoke still eyerolling, is better than drawing tribal lines. The latter may, and perhaps it even did, lead to chaffing of discussion because of ideological lines.

There is already a soft-handed policy of moving threads when it is decided where they belong.

Make no bones abut it - the problem some people have is not so much that it's done but by whom the decision comes.

Well, that sucks, but it's Pundit's forum. If he says DW goes in other games, it goes in other games. The back and forth for 'edge cases' won't result in any action - neither will the majority of instances where threads are posted to the wrong place.

This decision has resulted because GW spent years purposely smoking in Pundit's non-smoking zone (and waving his fag around just to make sure we could see it) - simple as that really.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;663766Well, now I bring you this: FAE means Fate Accelerated Edition

And strangely enough, I can't respond in that thread either, because it's ALSO locked. >_<

Anyway, thought you all would appreciate this.

Topher a perfect example of a poster who can be a monumental dickhead to everyone, contribute nothing to the forums and shit up every thread he steps into with the most mind-bogglingly needless hostility but never gets in trouble because he's buddies with the mods.

I mean seriously, look at that thread. He started an entire thread to piss all over people because everyone doesn't follow the same games he does.

Needlessly hostile. check.
Zero content. check.
Any sort of sanction...........

Quote from: One Horse Town;663793Shit, he's posted multiple threads where they shouldn't be and said so in the OP. Now, as Rince said, it's not a great deal of work to move it, but when the person doing it is doing it on purpose, then why should we waste our lives cleaning up after them, when the base purpose seems to be to fuck with us?
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That's just his exploits in the media section. We haven't even touched on the number of times he's purposely mis-posted or even trolled his own threads inh the main forum.

I think flawed policy is the issue here, and GW was drawing attention to that. Yes, trollishly, but this is a site that should be way more self-reflective about being called a troll since it is so often dismissed as a hive of scum and villainy where nothing worthwile gets said. He was a long-standing member with quite a lot of interesting and mostly critical things to say. Which I often disagreed with, but I can see where he was coming from.

Look homeward, angel.

Quote from: FASERIP;664060Look homeward, angel.

Beautiful.

Quote from: Piestrio;663883Topher a perfect example of a poster who can be a monumental dickhead to everyone, contribute nothing to the forums and shit up every thread he steps into with the most mind-bogglingly needless hostility but never gets in trouble because he's buddies with the mods.

I mean seriously, look at that thread. He started an entire thread to piss all over people because everyone doesn't follow the same games he does.

Needlessly hostile. check.
Zero content. check.
Any sort of sanction...........

Quote from: TopherPlaying: Nothing at the moment

Quote from: Rincewind1;663735I agree quite strongly with Melan's words, though GW certainly had a dedicated way of pushing buttons. RPG.net is a political correctness gone mad shithole, but that does not mean that "We're not as bad as RPG.net" should be the position to aspire. The position ought to be, obviously, "We are far better than RPG.net". Torquemada was not as bad as Stalin.

Whether you're going by "bodycount" or "oppression", theRPGsite is not on a torquemada-to-Stalin scale with RPGnet; we are, if anything, on a Mr.Rogers-to-Stalin scale. The comparisons are patently absurd.

QuoteAnd I say this as a guy who usually agrees with Pundit. And I know it's his sandbox. But if he wants for people to keep building their own castles around there, it may be a good idea to stop kicking them over, when it's not exactly 10 hours of work to just move them to the other pit if they hurt administrator's team eyes.

And what, oh armchair-admin, would you recommend when someone is continually putting up "sandcastles" that are specifically meant to be effrontery to the administration for years, culminating to the point that he builds said sandcastle with a big and literal statement of "Fuck you, I know this is against the rules and I've been repeatedly told so, I'm completely aware of this but I'm doing it anyways to defy you"?
Because that's what GW was doing lately. LITERALLY. In his last TBZ thread he LITERALLY said "I know this doesn't belong here but I'm putting it here anyways because fuck you".

RPGPundit

Quote from: Rincewind1;663869Don't get me wrong, I understand GW earned it. And I'm not calling for unbanning him (unless he asks of his own accord), because that'd basically be a bad precedent allowing him to continue such "disruption". I have no tears to shed here neither.

But I think a soft hand, moving thread policy, while may evoke still eyerolling, is better than drawing tribal lines. The latter may, and perhaps it even did, lead to chaffing of discussion because of ideological lines.

Our policy is to move threads. Quit trying to pretend it isn't. It takes a monumental level of active effort to get yourself banned here.

Quote from: One Horse Town;663793He was banned for the media thread - the reason being that he's done exactly the same thing many times and when he posted about the new Rush album last year, clearly stated he knew it shouldn't be posted there and suggested we should "suck it".

Link? Because I did a Google for it and none of the Rush related threads returned had him saying anything like this.

Quote from: Piestrio;663883Topher a perfect example of a poster who can be a monumental dickhead to everyone, contribute nothing to the forums and shit up every thread he steps into with the most mind-bogglingly needless hostility but never gets in trouble because he's buddies with the mods.

And that SO wasn't the point I was trying to make.

Quote from: Melan;663910I think flawed policy is the issue here, and GW was drawing attention to that.

Yep.

And if a 2/3 majority wished a policy change, would the powers that be make it? No. Because this forum doesn't exist for those members; it exists as a platform for the Pundit's agenda. And I'm really not sure if it's worth my time to start yet another RPG forum, because they all seem to end up extremely agenda driven, and honestly it's just not that popular a topic.