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[Thunderdome] The Wizard Vs Fighter Bullshit thing (MGuy vs Panzerkraken)

Started by Panzerkraken, August 09, 2012, 02:41:49 AM

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Bedrockbrendan

#90
August 13, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;570769Dear God, I don't know whether to look forward with glee or horror that this might become 'a thing' in this forum.

Oh well, might as well fire up the old skool riffs:
Throw down boss music. Y's - Holders of Power

The idea wasn't because thunderdome battles are fun or good. It was more about having a release valve for some of the more pendandic thread derailments (so people can actually put mechanical questions into practice rather than debate hypotheticals endlessly). Personally, I think if you are actuallly playing the game, you don't need thunderdome. You know how well these things work or do not work for you from experience.

Edit: also if we did get to a point where you had three or more at a time, they should probably be shuffled to another part of thhe forum.

Lord Mistborn

#91
August 13, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
Well the build is up it took me 5 min to make it. If anyone thinks they can beat it with core warrior classes go ahead and post a build you even have my list of preped spells.
Quote from: Me;576460As much as this debacle of a thread has been an embarrassment for me personally (and it has ^_^\' ). I salute you mister unintelligible troll guy. You ran as far to the extreme as possible on the anti-3e thing and Benoist still defended you against my criticism. Good job.

Bedrockbrendan

#92
August 13, 2012, 10:37:52 AM
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;570774Well the build is up it took me 5 min to make it. If anyone thinks they can beat it with core warrior classes go ahead and post a build you even have my list of preped spells.

LM: please wait until mcguy and panzer have finished running their encounter. You have to have your character okay'd by the GM and abide by any character creation ground rules established by him and the participants.

jeff37923

#93
August 13, 2012, 02:07:47 PM
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;570757At 10th level the Wizard Starts in the air because his fly spell lasts all day
In the best case scenario you have intitiative 3-4 points better than the Wizard (in core out of core yer right boned due to nerveskitter). Solid Fog Is a real thing one you need a counter for or the wizard gets 3-4 rounds to cast whatever. Improve Invis is also a thing hope you packed potoins of see invis.
But I don't have to tell you guys I can show. I promised you a wizard Build so I think I'll deliver

Start another thread, please.

This is the Thunderdome for MGuy and Panzerkracken.
"Meh."

jeff37923

#94
August 13, 2012, 02:39:51 PM Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 02:59:41 PM by jeff37923
I'm about to declare this scenario a forfeit by MGuy. He has been requested to do a DC 10 Concentration check and a DC 10 Ride check to cast a spell with a somatic componant while riding through the air on a hippogriff. So far, MGuy has made the DC 10 Concentration check and is waffling on making the DC 10 Ride check.

EDIT: I have to go to work at 3pm.
"Meh."

Benoist

#95
August 13, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
Don't disrupt the thread, Lord Mistborn.

Rum Cove

#96
August 13, 2012, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;570885So far, MGuy has made the DC 10 Concentration check and is waffling on making the DC 10 Ride check.

Did he fall off his mount?!

Planet Algol

#97
August 13, 2012, 07:14:48 PM Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 07:18:16 PM by Planet Algol
I MGuy's Wizard Mr. Magoo or something?

Grossly overestimating spell ranges/areas of effect. Falling off his Hippogriff.

I'm guessing when he hits dirt the Keystone Kops are going to start chasing him.
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

deadDMwalking

#98
August 13, 2012, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;570885I'm about to declare this scenario a forfeit by MGuy. He has been requested to do a DC 10 Concentration check and a DC 10 Ride check to cast a spell with a somatic componant while riding through the air on a hippogriff. So far, MGuy has made the DC 10 Concentration check and is waffling on making the DC 10 Ride check.

EDIT: I have to go to work at 3pm.

May I ask why you're asking for a ride check?  The mount doesn't require a ride check to continue flying.  

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/ride.htm

Quote from: SRDCheck
Typical riding actions don't require checks. You can saddle, mount, ride, and dismount from a mount without a problem.

The following tasks do require checks.

...List of Tasks...
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

Panzerkraken

#99
August 13, 2012, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: deadDMwalking;570970May I ask why you're asking for a ride check?  The mount doesn't require a ride check to continue flying.  

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/ride.htm

Quote from: SRDCheck
Typical riding actions don't require checks. You can saddle, mount, ride, and dismount from a mount without a problem.

The following tasks do require checks.

...List of Tasks...

I'd bet it's a guide with knees or control mount in combat roll, considering he said it's only DC 10
Si vous n'opposez point aux ordres de croire l'impossible l'intelligence que Dieu a mise dans votre esprit, vous ne devez point opposer aux ordres de malfaire la justice que Dieu a mise dans votre coeur. Une faculté de votre âme étant une fois tyrannisée, toutes les autres facultés doivent l'être également.
-Voltaire

Planet Algol

#100
August 13, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
Riding a donkey around backwards, firing spells at butterflies and songbirds, "Taste my dweomercraft lowly Fighter!"
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

deadDMwalking

#101
August 13, 2012, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Panzerkraken;570977I'd bet it's a guide with knees or control mount in combat roll, considering he said it's only DC 10

Control with knees is DC 5, and unless we've skipped a whole bunch of people flying toward each other, it seems we're too early for a Fight With Mount roll.  Considering Mguy's mount doesn't actually have any attacks, I can't think of a single reason to call for that roll.
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

Panzerkraken

#102
August 13, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: deadDMwalking;570989Control with knees is DC 5, and unless we've skipped a whole bunch of people flying toward each other, it seems we're too early for a Fight With Mount roll.  Considering Mguy's mount doesn't actually have any attacks, I can't think of a single reason to call for that roll.

it's DC10 bareback, if he didn't buy an exotic saddle for his fly.
Si vous n'opposez point aux ordres de croire l'impossible l'intelligence que Dieu a mise dans votre esprit, vous ne devez point opposer aux ordres de malfaire la justice que Dieu a mise dans votre coeur. Une faculté de votre âme étant une fois tyrannisée, toutes les autres facultés doivent l'être également.
-Voltaire

Planet Algol

#103
August 13, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
"Waste my WBL on a saddle? Are you insane!!!"
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

deadDMwalking

#104
August 13, 2012, 08:33:03 PM Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 08:37:33 PM by deadDMwalking
Quote from: Panzerkraken;570992it's DC10 bareback, if he didn't buy an exotic saddle for his fly.

That seems pretty unreasonable.  The figurine of wondrous power seems like it should come with reasonable gear (considering it is not, in fact, a hippogriff).  But it doesn't say in the SRD.  I'll look it up in the DMG tonight to see if it has additional description.

Edit - Nothing in the DMG.  Haven't had a chance to look for errata.  But since it is in statue form before you activate it, and it's made to be ridden, it seems like it would be carved with the appropriate saddle...
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker
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