Quote from: jeff37923;570546OK, you are both still unawares of each other so far....

The distance between the two of you is now 800 ft, spot checks are needed. MGuy needs an 18 while PanzerKracken needs a 23.

Got it

Quote from: jeff37923;570546OK, you are both still unawares of each other so far....

The distance between the two of you is now 800 ft, spot checks are needed. MGuy needs an 18 while PanzerKracken needs a 23.

1d20-1=7

Still cruising along.

My mount has a +8 Spot and a 10 Int, up to you if he notices the huge black fly and does anything.

Invisible Castle is giving me ERROR results for a simple d20 roll.

There we go. 3+8 = 11, your pegasus notices nothing.

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3650758/

Quote from: jeff37923;570553Invisible Castle is giving me ERROR results for a simple d20 roll.

There we go. 3+8 = 11, your pegasus notices nothing.

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3650758/

it's the 1 in front of the d20, I have the same problem with half my rolls

Quote from: Panzerkraken;570555it's the 1 in front of the d20, I have the same problem with half my rolls

Yup, that was killin' me.

This music's playing in my head right now as I picture the encounter.  It should be playing in yours as well.

OK everybody, I have to go to work now so this Thunderdome will be suspended until I return in about 14 hours.

Quote from: Libertad;570564This music's playing in my head right now as I picture the encounter.  It should be playing in yours as well.

I had this YouTube vid and music in mind, actually.

Quote from: Kaelik;570481So why do you have time to post in this Thunderdome thread but not time to post in the Thunderdome that you lost to me by forfeit?

Seems like if you have enough time here you could have posted in that thread since we've been waiting on you for over two weeks.

Because I didn't post or read here for over a week? because I'd already made the utterly trivial changes requested of me? Because I'm not entirely sure I trust DeadDM to be impartial as a DM?

Take your pick.


Eh: Apparently I'd made the skill changes and then... not saved the post.  Whatever, if I can keep a bone devil from one-shotting the mage (and then be able to actually hurt him with my worthless non-mage characters) because of 1 extra skill point then the math is truly fucked.

I'm back and waiting for MGuy's PM response about his action.

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;570469the thing is with his vast selection of spells the wizard needs to worry about one thing, HP damage from weapons but their is a vast number of things the fighter hast to counter with only what he can buy with his wealth by level.

even if he can make fort save vs baleful polymorph and will save vs dominate person still needs to reach a flying wizard in the air, see an invisible wizard, escape solid fog, not be mauled by summoned monsters, and not die in two rounds to maximized scorching ray.

if anyone wants I can write up a 10th level wizard that can do all of that in core

A wizard in general, has the advantage. Mainly due to horribly overpowered spells like improved invisibility, stoneskin, etc.. A fighter with poor gear is toast.

But,

A wizard is supposed to win in a situation where he is able to cast a few spells. A prepared wizard is a beast.

A fighter is supposed to win against a wizard in a fair fight. Fair being the fighter might win initiative and drill the wizard with a bow, or dual strike him into the next life.  Maybe the fighter should buy some Con reducing poison for his weapons?

I don't see it as a problem of 'who is more powerful'

The wizard is uber when he has time to prepare; either a few rounds of casting, or a day to pick the right spells.

A fighter is uber when backstabbed, or in a tiny tunnell, etc...

At 10th level the Wizard Starts in the air because his fly spell lasts all day
In the best case scenario you have intitiative 3-4 points better than the Wizard (in core out of core yer right boned due to nerveskitter). Solid Fog Is a real thing one you need a counter for or the wizard gets 3-4 rounds to cast whatever. Improve Invis is also a thing hope you packed potoins of see invis.
But I don't have to tell you guys I can show. I promised you a wizard Build so I think I'll deliver

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;570757At 10th level the Wizard Starts in the air because his fly spell lasts all day
In the best case scenario you have intitiative 3-4 points better than the Wizard (in core out of core yer right boned due to nerveskitter). Solid Fog Is a real thing one you need a counter for or the wizard gets 3-4 rounds to cast whatever. Improve Invis is also a thing hope you packed potoins of see invis.
But I don't have to tell you guys I can show. I promised you a wizard Build so I think I'll deliver

This battle is between mcguy and panzer.

I think if you want to participate in a thunderdome scenario or offer up a build,  you should start a new thread or wait until jeff has had a chance to resolve this encounter.

As Promised

Awesome McWizardington, Pwner of Fighters
Human Evoker 6/ Red Wizard 4
Str 8/Dex 18/ Con 18/Int 22/Wis 10/Cha 8 (8/16/16/18/10/8 pre-items 32pb)
AC 19 HP 66 Fort +8 Ref +8 Will +9
Feats Spell Focus (Conjuration), Augment Summoning, Tatto Focus (Evocation), Empower Spell, Maximize Spell, I dunno Weapon Focus Ray or somthing (core only ;_; )
Skills Concentration +17 Spelcraft +21 Spot +6 Listen +6 Knowlage(Arcana) +21 Craft (underwater basketweaving) +9

Spells 4/6+1/6+1/4+1/4+1/3+1 (banned schools Abjuration and Necromancy)
5th- Maximized Scorching Ray, Overland Flight, Dominate Person (DC 21), Summon Monster V The Wizard Strikes Back
4th- Empowerd Schorching Ray, Solid Fog, Evards Black Tentacles 2x Summon Monster IV A New Hope
3rd- Fireball 2x Haste 2x Summon Monster III Revenge of the Summoners.
2nd- 3x Scorching Ray 2x Invisibility, Minor Image
1st- 3x Magic Missile, Mage Armor, Expeditious Retreat. 2x Silent Image

Item are Gloves of Dex +2 Amulet of Health +2 Headband of Int +4 Ring of Protection +1 Cloak of Resistance +1 Rod of Extend (used to make mage armor and Overland Flight last all day)
Edit tuns out theirs WBL left over so he has Premanent Arcane Sight as well

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;570760This battle is between mcguy and panzer.

I think if you want to participate in a thunderdome scenario or offer up a build,  you should start a new thread or wait until jeff has had a chance to resolve this encounter.

Dear God, I don't know whether to look forward with glee or horror that this might become 'a thing' in this forum.

Oh well, might as well fire up the old skool riffs:
Throw down boss music. Y's - Holders of Power