Quote from: Rum Cove;575327Not without complaints.

Complaints?

Quote from: SRDVigorous Motion
If you are riding on a moving mount, taking a bouncy ride in a wagon, on a small boat in rough water, below-decks in a storm-tossed ship, or simply being jostled in a similar fashion, you must make a Concentration check (DC 10 + the level of the spell you're casting) or lose the spell.

Clear as crystal...oh yeah forgot, RAW when favorable only. :rotfl:

Quote from: Rum Cove;575327Not without complaints.

Umm I never questioned the concentration check. Only thing I've questioned is Ride Check sir.

Quote from: gleichman;575315So... the GM just walked away from Thunderdome?

Pity no one took me up on my bet that this one would fall apart too. Dang.

3 Dimensional air battles are HARD especially with me summoning like 8 bats. Still I kept notes on where, when, and in what formation I summoned the bats. The AoO thing I even missed. I read he could only move 5ft in solid fog but I glossed over the part where he couldn't make a 5ft step (error on my end as well as everyone else's except DeadDM). I don't see how going back, making the missed AoO rolls was asshattery especially when the rules clearly allow them. Nor do I find it "wrong" to remind the GM where the fuck I summoned my god damned summons when he's making claims that they can't get their attack in. Minor random rules changes with no forwarning I'll let slide. Purposefully gimping my summons (not once but twice) so that they don't get their regular attacks are a no go.

This little Thunderdome has taught me something. People who haven't played in truly high level scenarios (such as 3 dimensional aerial combat) shouldn't GM them.

Quote from: MGuy;575338Umm I never questioned the concentration check. Only thing I've questioned is Ride Check sir.

I assume Jeff ruled you were using Guide With Knees to cast while riding.

Anyway, congrats on the win.

However, no matter whether I think it's over, Panzerkraken didn't walk away, so if someone wants to step up as DM and keep going, go for it.

I would, but it would be reading the SRD every move, would take forever.

Quote from: MGuy;575339This little Thunderdome has taught me something. People who haven't played in truly high level scenarios (such as 3 dimensional aerial combat) shouldn't GM them.

And shitheads who have flying mounts but only allocate 1 skill rank to Ride, who only want the effects of Solid Fog to come into play when it helps them after they have cast it, keeps gimping their own summoned monsters by dumping them inside the same Solid Fog, and fucking whine at everygoddamn thing that doesn't go their way shouldn't play the game.

You know you could have won this in one round if your pokemage had bothered to memorize Fireball? You had surprise, but didn't have the spell because you got it in your head that your spell selection of multiple Monster Summonings was a slam dunk. It is never a slam dunk, cupcake. It always depends on how you use what you have.

I got tired of your whiney bullshit. If this had been at an actual game table, I would have thrown you out sooner.

You know I just have 3 questions about Panzer's character. If he can answer them I'll just walk away from the rest of this mess:

1) Do you have any alternate mode of flight or a feather fall contingency for when/if your mount would've died?

2) If yes (flight) how fast was it? If yes (feather fall) did you have some way of increasing your move speed once grounded? If no do you think you could've survived the drop?

3) Have you in, at any capacity realized how many more options I have than your fighter? That I have more options as this wizard in the realm of stealth, navigation, recon, offense, defense, logistics, even retreating than your fighter even when I don't have as full a spell selection as a regular in game caster would and all by myself.

My point was proven at Solid Fog. As I said, the rest is just clean up. An honest answer to these questions would be all I need to satisfy me and he can have the victory.

Quote from: jeff37923;575348And shitheads who have flying mounts but only allocate 1 skill rank to Ride, who only want the effects of Solid Fog to come into play when it helps them after they have cast it, keeps gimping their own summoned monsters by dumping them inside the same Solid Fog, and fucking whine at everygoddamn thing that doesn't go their way shouldn't play the game.

You know you could have won this in one round if your pokemage had bothered to memorize Fireball? You had surprise, but didn't have the spell because you got it in your head that your spell selection of multiple Monster Summonings was a slam dunk. It is never a slam dunk, cupcake. It always depends on how you use what you have.

I got tired of your whiney bullshit. If this had been at an actual game table, I would have thrown you out sooner.

1 rank in Ride because with my +4 bonus total I can get all the simple checks I need for regular riding unless the GM ups the DC on me without warning.

No fireball because I said I'd be a conjurer and I like summoning things. Since I like summoning stuff I did that. I gimped my bats in the solid fog so he'd have NO CHANCE in hell of ever actually getting to me or threatening my character ever. Eventually the bats would eat him alive and I'm not incredibly in a hurry so why not play it safe?

Lastly I wouldn't want to play under your table because your limited grasp of the rules and my actions in general, and the fact that you are willing to change the rules on the fly without fore warning/forget where I summoned my shit/claim that I didn't make a roll when I fucking did would prevent me from doing so.

I'm sorry I brought up the Attacks of Opportunity for movement.  I had mostly assumed they were being done where I couldn't see, but figured I'd mention it mostly for the benefit of the members of the peanut gallery unfamiliar with 3.5 rules.

Quote from: CRKrueger;575326No surprise, however.  A one-on-one in 3.5 with a Wizard who both picks all the spells in his spellbook and the ones he has memorized that day knowing he is going to do a one-on-one?  This thing was over before it began.

That is actually unfair. Mguy used silent image, solid fog and summon monsters IV and V, none of those spells are tailored for one-on-one.

Mguy, I suppose this don't really count as a spoiler anymore but could you tell me how did you suddenly appear  in message #167

Quote from: jeff37923;573194Panzerkraken, the hawk has dissappeared and been replaced by what appears to be a wizard on the back of a hippogriff who is casting a spell within 200 feet of you.

it sound like invisibility but that "the hawk has disappeared and been replaced" sound a little weird. (and why turn it off if it was invisibility?)

Quote from: Just Another User;575358That is actually unfair. Mguy used silent image, solid fog and summon monsters IV and V, none of those spells are tailored for one-on-one.

Mguy, I suppose this don't really count as a spoiler anymore but could you tell me how you how did you suddenly appear  in message #167



it sound like invisibility but that "the hawk has disappeared and been replaced" sound a little weird. (and why turn it off if it was invisibility?)

I just stopped concentrating on Silent Image. Concentrating is a standard action and when you stop concentrating your spell immediately ends.

Good fucking god...

I can't believe people actually play like this.

What a boring, soulless bog of aspie bullshit.

All three of you need to find a new hobby.

Would have liked to see this one play out to finish, but I do think it was looking like things were going to go McGuy's way (barring any unusual rolls). For the fighter to win this scenario he really had to land the first strike (preferably up close) in my opinion.

That said the back seat GMing was getting tiresome. I realize it might not come accross that way to some of the newer folks here,but that kind of aggressive rules lawyering is something would get you booted from most tables here I believe. I do understand mcguy's desire to question any ruling that looks a bit off (especially in a scenario that is supposed to be RAW). But it was more in the delivery than anything else. See the difference between DeadDM's rules query to Jeff and McGuy's.

Quote from: MGuy;575363I just stopped concentrating on Silent Image. Concentrating is a standard action and when you stop concentrating your spell immediately ends.

a silent image of what?

I actually find myself disgusted reading this thread.