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[Thunderdome] The Wizard Vs Fighter Bullshit thing (MGuy vs Panzerkraken)

Started by Panzerkraken, August 09, 2012, 02:41:49 AM

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Spike

My thunderdome is rolling right along. In fact we've gone thirty six hours forward, then 24 back, then...

Well, at least I'm casting magics...and my dice are working about as well as usual (Only I can fail my one and only divination with an 80% chance of success... and my scrying, and my... well, lets not talk about the Commune spell. Its very sad...)
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

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MGuy

It's seriously not worth putting a lot of work into doing this. Even if/when I kill this fighter no one's opinion about anything will change. At this point though I don't think there's anything else I need to say about the Wiz v Fighter. Everyone in the original thread has admitted openly to actively ignoring/changing the rules of the game to suit them such that any actual difference in power is obscured by those changes or by giving the fighter enough magic equipment that he's practically a magical character anyway.

This challenge has already shown that my intentionally poorly made conjurer can beat the best fighter panzer can make in combat (since combat is all the fighter can do effectively). The only thing is just that I have to get within casting distance (because for the sake of this challenge I care about killing the horse riding fighter) then win the fight. Rince and repeat for the next two scenarios.
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Quote from: MGuyFinally a thread about fighters!

Declan MacManus

Now I'm lost...

Is Jeff90210 stalling so that a fight never actually breaks out?

Or is MGuy just running away with his tail inbetween his legs?

Which party is bitching out here?
I used to be amused, now I\'m back to being disgusted.

jeff37923

OK, if you want to quit this exercise, than let me know now.

I understand this is taking a long time. I work for a living and cannot access this site from my workplace, so it takes awhile to do the turns.
"Meh."

Declan MacManus

Quote from: jeff37923;572589OK, if you want to quit this exercise, than let me know now.

I understand this is taking a long time. I work for a living and cannot access this site from my workplace, so it takes awhile to do the turns.

Get a grownup job so you can spend half your day doing things other than what they actually pay you for like the rest of us.

I'm supposed to be running root cause analyses and updating technical process specs right now. Instead I'm shitting on your thread and checking out the indian girl a few cubicles over. For money.
I used to be amused, now I\'m back to being disgusted.

crkrueger

Quote from: Declan MacManus;572598checking out the indian girl a few cubicles over.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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crkrueger

Quote from: Rum Cove;572654MGuy, are you quitting?

He doesn't have a fellow BMX-Zealot as GM like Kaelik does, so he's worried now.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

deadDMwalking

I got the definite impression that he intends to defeat the Fighter in three different scenarios; he just recognizes that nobody will change their mind.  

Of course, he's right.  Once the Wizard makes the Fighter look completely useless, people will once again point out that it doesn't matter since they're supposed to be on the same team, and even if the Fighter's contribution is UNNECESSARY, he can still contribute SOMETHING (even if it's just a pair of hands).  But let's keep that in the right thread, shall we?  

Mguy will get this done.  I know he's putting his moves in PMs.  Probably can't reveal them publicly because the Fighter still doesn't see him.
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And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

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MGuy

Quote from: deadDMwalking;572715I got the definite impression that he intends to defeat the Fighter in three different scenarios; he just recognizes that nobody will change their mind.  

Of course, he's right.  Once the Wizard makes the Fighter look completely useless, people will once again point out that it doesn't matter since they're supposed to be on the same team, and even if the Fighter's contribution is UNNECESSARY, he can still contribute SOMETHING (even if it's just a pair of hands).  But let's keep that in the right thread, shall we?  

Mguy will get this done.  I know he's putting his moves in PMs.  Probably can't reveal them publicly because the Fighter still doesn't see him.
Pretty much this. I don't know how people read what I wrote as "I quit"
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Quote from: MGuyFinally a thread about fighters!

Opaopajr

Well, that was a lot of typing... So what's MGuy's move? Or is Jeff still waiting?
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Spike

MGuy, if you don't understand why people think you were quitting, I'll help ya out.



Quote from: MGuy;572468It's seriously not worth putting a lot of work into doing this.

Reads a lot like "I'm done".


 
QuoteAt this point though I don't think there's anything else I need to say about the Wiz v Fighter.

Also reads a lot like "I'm done".

 
Quoteor by giving the fighter enough magic equipment that he's practically a magical character anyway.

This doesn't, but I'd like to reflect on the fact that every D&D character gets enough magical items to practically be a magical character anyway. That this happens to be more useful to melee types than magic types in no way means that mundane melee types are somehow inferior.  Heck, I could turn it around and point out that being deliberately gimped in Hit Points and useable items in return for innate spell casting is actually weaker in D&D level progression scheme, where almost any spell you want and or need is available in a magic item.

I don't because I respect men who like to wear dresses for their lifestyle choices.


QuoteThis challenge has already shown that my intentionally poorly made conjurer can beat the best fighter panzer can make in combat (since combat is all the fighter can do effectively).

Now: This reads like "I'm declaring myself the winner, so I'm done."

Now, maybe you've managed to do something cool that NO ONE but you and Jeff have seen so far.  But to the rest of us? It looks a lot like you and Panzer flying around blindly... or maybe just Panzer (since I still never saw you make a spot check...)


See all those phrases you used, just in one short post that can all be easily read as "I'm done"?

That might just be why people, including the GM, thought you were quitting.
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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Shane

So are you quitting or not guys? I hope not, I want to see it kick off. And the weekends here now so... etc... etc...

jeff37923

The hawk has banked is following you in your flight.


Panzerkraken, it is your move.
"Meh."

jeff37923

Panzerkraken has turned his mount towards the hawk and is closing with it while making ready a bow.

MGuy, your move.
"Meh."